Scholsey
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Sounds like they were Bull Mastiffs, is a very bad job! Hope Tom manages to sort things out and this bloke moves away small villages don't need people like that in them!
Disgusting (graphic images) Sheep Worrying.
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Sounds like they were Bull Mastiffs, is a very bad job! Hope Tom manages to sort things out and this bloke moves away small villages don't need people like that in them!
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If there is more than one dog they will often take opposite ends of the animal.
It may well be that these particular dogs have had much practice on the local deer population.
Many years ago, before the hunting ban, I had the privilege of seeing my friends' deer hunting lurchers work. They very quickly learnt to stop with a leg hold and transfer to a neck hold. Anything else invariably meant the quarry escaped. Occasionally tree would be an exceptional dog which went straight for a neck hold.
If there is more than one dog they will often take opposite ends of the animal.
It may well be that these particular dogs have had much practice on the local deer population.
Many years ago, before the hunting ban, I had the privilege of seeing my friends' deer hunting lurchers work. They very quickly learnt to stop with a leg hold and transfer to a neck hold. Anything else invariably meant the quarry escaped. Occasionally tree would be an exceptional dog which went straight for a neck hold.
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Having read the article, I don't understand why the farmer is having to claim on his insurance. Since the dog owner has been found and successfully prosecuted, surely part of his punishment is paying the appropriate level of compensation?
I imagine he claimed as soon as it happened in a hope to keep his business up and running, as criminal cases don't always go the right way. And now I would think it's a matter of principle.
When catching sheep, my collies will hold leg wool until the sheep stops and then will go for the neck. They don't draw blood, but you can imagine where it goes from there with an untrained dog.
The huntaway goes straight for the head and puts her whole mouth round it. Again she very rarely marks them but the sheep are so shocked they just stop immediately. It's actually quite comedy to watch. But again, would not be at all funny if she wasn't trained and was out of control.
RedMerle
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http://www.ayradvertiser.com/news/14712592.Sheep_drowned_after_dog_attack/
Although the article doesn't seem to know if there were 30 or 34 or 36 sheep
redddraggon
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Totally agree, I came across this link this morning: http://www.bedlamfarm.com/2016/03/16/the-rainbow-bridge-curse-loving-dogs-into-dumbness/ Quite apt.
PostHarvest
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Its quite common for an insurance company to pay out on their client's claim then to make a claim of their own against the party that caused the loss. Of course, their claim will include their legal and other costs, so can be significantly higher than the original payment to the owner of the stock.
Just caught this on FB, there aren`t enough words as to how wrong this is on so many levels. Surely the owner should have all dogs removed and some sort of order preventing him from owning/looking after any dog until the whole sorry mess is sorted?
Happy to chip in to any fighting fund.
Happy to chip in to any fighting fund.
llamedos
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-38611997
A dog trainer whose two Rottweilers killed dozens of lambs has pleaded guilty to allowing his animals to be dangerously out of control.
The two dogs killed 35 lambs at a farm in Risbury, near Leominster, in September. Another 20 lambs were so badly injured they had to be put down.
Charles Ross-Robertson, 64, from Stanton Lacy, Ludlow, will be sentenced at Hereford Crown Court on 14 March.
An application has been made for the dogs to be put down.
A charge of being in possession of an offensive weapon in a public place will lie on file
A dog trainer whose two Rottweilers killed dozens of lambs has pleaded guilty to allowing his animals to be dangerously out of control.
The two dogs killed 35 lambs at a farm in Risbury, near Leominster, in September. Another 20 lambs were so badly injured they had to be put down.
Charles Ross-Robertson, 64, from Stanton Lacy, Ludlow, will be sentenced at Hereford Crown Court on 14 March.
An application has been made for the dogs to be put down.
A charge of being in possession of an offensive weapon in a public place will lie on file
Or that the defendant will be paying weekly or monthly. It's not uncommon to see people being fined hundreds of pounds but paying 50p a week!
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I've seen that too and had the dubious privilege of being invited on what was probably the last legal coursing of red deer with Scottish deerhounds here in Scotland. I actually have some photos somewhere. As Unlacedgecko said, they'd go for the neck or a hind leg. The deer hounds were obviously inexperienced and it was a messy job that I didn't enjoy watching. I've also seen experienced lurchers at work and that was a different matter. The roe's neck was broken quicker than a rifle would have done the job.
It sounds as if Crowd Funding might be a way to help this young flock owner. Here's the link:
https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfun...act-Desktop-AlwaysOn&utm_term=crowdfunding uk
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11 months on from this Tom has been back at court.
The dogs will be destroyed, but Tom gets the princely sum of £100 per month for 3 years
There have been more than a few no shows at court in this disgusting case.
Absolutely incredible.
I am pleased that the dogs are destroyed. And I am pleased that Tom will receive some compensation, but the terms are an insult.
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I have one Czech, one East German, and two pups from the pair, all German shepherds and all trained. I have no Malinois.
Malinois are considered to be a lot sharper and more hyper than German shepherds. By the looks of those sheep, whatever killed them had done it before.
But don't blame the dogs, blame the owners. Mine dogs are trained and never out of the kennel unless accompanied, which is how all working dogs should be kept. If owners can't control their dogs, they shouldn't have them. Period.
Philip Watkins
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It is possible to have a lot of dogs and to have those dogs under control. I was hunting a pack of hounds in my teens. Four German shepherds are a dawdle.
Not sure what Philip Watkins is hinting at but if something is worrying him, why doesn't he come out with it?
Philip Watkins
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Didn't realise this was an old thread resurrected. It's been a long day!
Sorry if I was a bit short. The dogs always seem to get the blame when it is the owners who are at fault.