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If the NFU was a truly representative organisation then RT would have been kept in check and would still focus in our case on grain safety. That hasn’t happened as far as can see. It’s just a mutual back slapping club.
A bit like all political parties. Say what you really think or rock the boat and you are soon persona non gratis.they made a mistake with mine ……. Think they realised within the first 30 mins of me being there
I got kicked out of their WhatsApp group for daring to say what I thought !
Future NFU leaders and AHDB illuminate are groomed / broken like a horse
Well he never lets the facts get in the way of a good storySlightly different slant than was being portrayed in this thread by A N Other.....
A bit like all political parties. Say what you really think or rock the boat and you are soon persona non gratis.
they made a mistake with mine ……. Think they realised within the first 30 mins of me being there
I got kicked out of their WhatsApp group for daring to say what I thought !
Future NFU leaders and AHDB illuminate are groomed / broken like a horse
Because the Executive and President insist on it. Work against RT in the NFU at your peril.
It was hatchet job on meat more than anything. In particular I noticed the catch 22 no win scenario they raised namely if you don’t use antibiotics you could have a welfare problem, if you do use them you create resistance.
Well blow me down but ain’t life just a series of compromises.
On the Wye Valley pollution, any issues are surely down to the way the effluent & manure is used, not the fact that there are a lot of big chicken units there?
It’s also a big arable area, who would be using plenty of nutrients anyway. If some runoff is getting into the river then those spreading it need the criticism, not the poultry industry producing it. I suspect any poultry unit directly dribbling any effluent into watercourses would be reported so many times by those campaigners they’d have an EA visit straight away.
They clearly couldn’t find any cases though, so switched to some figures from somewhere in Devon, without mention of even when those figures came from.
Anyone else notice on country file this week( I rarely watch it) that the winner of the young farmer of the year , happened to be the youngest ever NFU board member.
Not so much imports but they want people to stop eating meat completely and to start eating highly processed glop . They all have some very large investments in these companies .RT little to do with this. Its all part of a combined media action to remove livestock production from UK. The Guardian article yesterday part of the drip drip and coincidentally same day as the Chanel 4 Dispatches programe. Hardly coincidental in my book. Tory government (Labout for that matter) wants to reduce livestock and then can allow imports from USA etc and argue that is essential to protect UK waters and habitats. George Monbiot will be pleased.
UK farmers may have to cut livestock count to save rivers, says expert
Overload of chicken and dairy cow manure has left some catchments critical, says author of book on issuewww.theguardian.com
Not so thing , people get groomed for the top ....That's just a coincidence.
Anyone else notice on country file this week( I rarely watch it) that the winner of the young farmer of the year , happened to be the youngest ever NFU board member.
Diffuse pollution is a tricky concept to explain and gain farmer acceptance. I have been involved and tried. A solution (possible) to the Wye valley is to stop applying broiler litter to land and burn instead. This was the solution to NVZ regulations the integrated processors have utilised in Lincolnshire / Norfolk.
Perhaps we should shoot people or nuke a few major citys to cull a few humans so we can polluteThe ulterior motive is to cut out livestock farming. Anything ~ pollution in watercourses, climate change, accusation of welfare issues ~ Anything is used to push the agenda.
The real scandal is that the bog standard consumer values food less than fashion, gadgets, and holidays.
Well I suppose somebody did the sums but how does that add up carbon wise?Diffuse pollution is a tricky concept to explain and gain farmer acceptance. I have been involved and tried. A solution (possible) to the Wye valley is to stop applying broiler litter to land and burn instead. This was the solution to NVZ regulations the integrated processors have utilised in Lincolnshire / Norfolk.
There will always be peak mortality at three days.I didn’t read that program as undermining RT particularly, although it won’t have helped the brand’s marketing image (such that it is?)
What I took from the program was an attack on ‘mega farms’, not that I saw anything particularly bad on view. The chickens looked healthy and the facilities tidy and in good order (unsurprisingly). They even made a comment at the beginning that antibiotic reduction had been so effective that there were half the number of resistant bacteria found in samples from intensive chickens than in organic ones, but noticed they didn’t dwell on that long.
There will be a few dead ones when they’re young in any system, and I did note they were keen to point out numbers rather than percentages. If there are 250k chickens on one site then even a tiny percentage will make for a big number. I was only surprised they didn’t manage to get an emotive picture of a thousand young chicks in a heap.
They seemed to be trying to make a thing of the guys being trained to humanely dispatch chicks too, but I’d be more concerned if they weren’t.
Intensive poultry production isn’t a job I’d particularly want to be involved in, but I didn’t see anything badly wrong in the units they showed. The system is a result of the demand for cheap food, with efficient factory farming the only way to get the prices so low.
Even without that - how can they tell the nutrient hasn't come from all the sewage going into the Wye?Diffuse pollution is a tricky concept to explain and gain farmer acceptance. I have been involved and tried. A solution (possible) to the Wye valley is to stop applying broiler litter to land and burn instead. This was the solution to NVZ regulations the integrated processors have utilised in Lincolnshire / Norfolk.
The percentage losses were no worse on that programme as those we experienced small scale with chicks under a heat lamp. I’d say the conditions in that big shed were as good if not better than traditional small scale production. You can’t even let them outdoors even if you wanted to due to avian flu restrictions so the big automatic shed is the only practical way forward other than for niche specialty poultry.There will always be peak mortality at three days.
Chicks have about three days worth of nutrition in the (absorbed) yolk. Some, for whatever reason never manage to learn to eat, there are ways of managing this in terms of having lots of available feed (on floor as well as in feeders), but it is always a mortality event.