Dispatches - Red Tractor

farmerm

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Location
Shropshire
To be honest my one who constantly wants to change the time they want to come would p!ss me right off too and i Doubt I would allow them to mess me about without good reason, As for turning up late, again they need a bloody good excuse.

My last inspection I point blank refused to invent an answer to a couple of the more stupid questions. And the inspector was told straight that it was rubbish and they had to fill the blanks in themselves.

Here is the dilemma.. are RT inspections too soft or too hard.. dispatches are telling the public it is the first.
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
I watched the program and thought it was a complete non story. The farm looked very tidy and well run. They talked about the numbers of dead chicks per day but not in context to the total number of birds on the farm.
The bit about water pollution in Herefordshire due to the concentration of chicken farms could have had a point but wasn't put over with hard facts, more supposition.
It’s all part of the drip feed strategy!
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
I watched the program and thought it was a complete non story. The farm looked very tidy and well run. They talked about the numbers of dead chicks per day but not in context to the total number of birds on the farm.
The bit about water pollution in Herefordshire due to the concentration of chicken farms could have had a point but wasn't put over with hard facts, more supposition.
Tbf the rivers around herefordshire are in a bad state but its caused by many problems, poultry litter, digestate ,flood plain ploughing/soil run off and a not fit for purpose sewage system to name a few.
 

Grass And Grain

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
Re the programme.

Some general agriculture bashing. Some interviewees who looked a bit lacking in B12, so we'd take their views with a bit of salt. Public might believe it 100%.

The RT bit? They can't inspect 24,7,365. Was there anything all too bad in the film? Does it mean inspections should be tougher? Does it mean the RT logo doesn't reassure that much.

Animal agriculture is an easy target. Yet to see a TV programme showing the animal welfare issues of burrying alive toads and mice whilst ploughing for broccoli - so maybe worse than chicken farming, but not such a good story.
 

Happy at it

Member
Location
NI
We all know some of the questions they ask are a load of BS but that is generally not the inspectors fault but higher up the line where all the issues over RT from the farmers stem from!

The inspectors are told what questions to ask.

As for mucking about with the time, let the inspector change it once ( as things go wrong/change for everyone ) but after that do not change the time unless its in your own intrest's to do so!


The way you've been talking you'd think the man kicked the girl up and down the yard for fun. Whether an inspector is nice or not, they have to be accountable for the organisation they represent, and its pointless. The decent and accommodating nature of the majority of farmers is one of the reasons red tractor found it so easy to strengthen its position within this industry, and for what?
 

Hfd Cattle

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
Program was a damp squid really that only really proved the very sad fact that the masses are happy to ignore certain things to continue eating cheap food. I dont think farming or red tractor really got harmed tonight.
This thread would have been alot shorter if only @Hfd Cattle hadnt made that bloody april silage that caused such a stir🤣
Feeding it now to the bulls ......great stuff !
Long way from the river though 😊😊
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
They're not farms but cheap meat factories with all the consequences.
Give me a farm yard cockerel any day.

^this was what I took from the program. Certainly not an expose of RT, however much some might like journos to tackle it.

I suspect that, if they were to do a program on RT, it would concentrate on the group of farmers that are trying to undermine their exemplary standards.🤐
 

Wurzeetoo

Member
How did they manage to jump from poultry farms in Herefordshire to slurry storage in Devon , (not many poultry farms I know need slurry storage)
Just goes to show channel 4 don't know what they are talking about .
Made some great television truth to the unaware public though. I’ve a feeling they are more switched on than you give them credit for
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon

Gedd

Member
Livestock Farmer
Lookout EA budget cut by 2 thirds going self funding i would say samw as vosa agricultural prosecutions coming
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Here is the dilemma.. are RT inspections too soft or too hard.. dispatches are telling the public it is the first.


no matter how hard or soft they are they are just 1 day of the year so can therefore never "assure" anything

the entire thing is completely flawed and therefore without value to farmer or consumer ......... yet we are told we must pay for it
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Guthrie hadn't quite got this right.
I refused to run heavily in calf cows through the handling system. So she could read the tag numbers .
Inspector changed the time if arrival 3 times on the day .
Inspector asked my OH to upload everything onto the portal on the Tuesday previous which OH did . When she eventually arrived she admitted she had forgotten to look it up . I could go on but I won't waste my time now .
She burst into tears because my OH asked what a certain question had to do with the welfare of cattle and she,said " I don't know I'm just told to ask the question " and then the tears started .
Slightly different slant than was being portrayed in this thread by A N Other.....:(
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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