Dissertation Research - Lynx Reintroduction *Admin Approved*

Longlowdog

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Livestock Farmer
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Aberdeenshire
I'm gonna make a prediction here...lynx will magically appear just like beavers did after 'accidental release' and no-one who has a licence for keeping them will be investigated or prosecuted. Then they will be afforded full protection with no redress for losses of livestock or amenity of land affected by said accidents.
 

Humble Village Farmer

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Essex
I'm gonna make a prediction here...lynx will magically appear just like beavers did after 'accidental release' and no-one who has a licence for keeping them will be investigated or prosecuted. Then they will be afforded full protection with no redress for losses of livestock or amenity of land affected by said accidents.
That's what I think will happen too.
 

steveR

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I'm gonna make a prediction here...lynx will magically appear just like beavers did after 'accidental release' and no-one who has a licence for keeping them will be investigated or prosecuted. Then they will be afforded full protection with no redress for losses of livestock or amenity of land affected by said accidents.
Well for sure the eedjits in power in Scotland will think that free roaming Lynx is a wonderful thing....

A few flocks get hammered, and I suspect the cats will soon be met with a warm welcome at night.
 

Longlowdog

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Livestock Farmer
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Aberdeenshire
The reason I think so is a couple of years back I was approached along with a number of my neighbours by a chap claiming to work for a rewilding charity asking if I was prepared for my land to registered as a lynx friendly part of a linking corridor between a couple of rather large woodlands which are already known to harbour Scottish wildcats. He was shocked to hear I wouldn't welcome him, the lynx or any further ridiculous questions of someone who made his income from producing highly visible, predator naive lambs that I'm 100% positive are easier for lynx to eat than camouflaged, hidden, sprightly roe deer fawns.
My current fencing is a mix of standard and short rylock, who exactly would pay for the 2k of lynx proof fencing required just to protect my 20 acres of grazing let alone the vast acreages of the other farms and moors nearby that currently are owned and worked by folk who did not ask for these extinct predators to venture onto their land which is (much to the disgust of The Sacred Cow) a personal possession and workplace and not a socialist playground there for the common good.
 
do you think livestock farmers might like the idea more if proper efforts were pre-emptively made to prevent the loss of livestock? e.g., reinforced fencing or guard-dogs etc


So you know Lynx are dangerous, You know something has to die so the Lynx can survive. You know that currently those animals are not being killed and ripped apart. You know that livestock, pets, children and adults will be at risk.

How sick does someone have to be to create the deaths of multiple animals, whilst at the same time putting humans, pets, livestock and children at risk ?

The people involved are unable to appreciate others opinions.

In this case the lives of animals, livestock & pets - in other words they are Psychopaths. Shouldn't you be interviewing the people coming up with this policy and trying to find out why their brains do not work correctly ?
 

Vader

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Mixed Farmer
So you know Lynx are dangerous, You know something has to die so the Lynx can survive. You know that currently those animals are not being killed and ripped apart. You know that livestock, pets, children and adults will be at risk.

How sick does someone have to be to create the deaths of multiple animals, whilst at the same time putting humans, pets, livestock and children at risk ?

The people involved are unable to appreciate others opinions.

In this case the lives of animals, livestock & pets - in other words they are Psychopaths. Shouldn't you be interviewing the people coming up with this policy and trying to find out why their brains do not work correctly ?
Think you will find he is 1 of them pushing the policy.
 

Vader

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Mixed Farmer
Hi,

My name is David and I am a student at Scotland's Rural College doing dissertation research on the potential reintroduction of the lynx. I'm specifically focusing on farming opinions towards the reintroduction, and what makes a fair reintroduction. If you have a minute, I would very much appreciate any responses to my survey - it takes no longer than 10 minutes:
https://qfreeaccountssjc1.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_6zhgTjsnM6Cbalw

This survey is not affiliated with any pre-existing government, or private lynx research - it is purely for academic purposes. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact me at [email protected]

Many thanks,
David
Hi David,
Did look at a few quedtions then quit it.
I never do surveys as they normally loaded to achieve what the op is trying to aim for.
But your choices are away with the fairys.

Just a thought for you.
If in 1 choice a few livestock dies with new lynx about, then each year lynx numbers increase, then livestock deaths increase.
Your questions dont take into account problems going forward. As such that is either on purpose which is sly.
Or you did not think that far which is worrying....
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
do you think livestock farmers might like the idea more if proper efforts were pre-emptively made to prevent the loss of livestock? e.g., reinforced fencing or guard-dogs etc
Are you honestly saying that I should farm in a Safari Park, with 10' fences around all my fields? 150 acres here, and 12km of fencing by the way, even pig netting with two barbs would cost £96 000 to replace, what on earth would Lynx proof fencing cost? And who would pay? Far better to keep Lynx in Safari parks I think.
 

Longlowdog

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Livestock Farmer
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Aberdeenshire
I like the idea of livestock guarding dogs, locals with dogs that are not likely to be welcomed by the stock guarding dogs maybe not so much.
These guards kill wolves so I expect lynx and labradoodles would be a piece of cake.
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
I like the idea of livestock guarding dogs, locals with dogs that are not likely to be welcomed by the stock guarding dogs maybe not so much.
These guards kill wolves so I expect lynx and labradoodles would be a piece of cake.
Had a vet here from Romania, and I chatted to him about livestock guarding dogs and Wolves during the TB test, and he said Wolves kill the guardian dogs, the dogs are no match for a Wolf.
 

Longlowdog

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
@Ffermer Bach I think there are two types, the big woolly ones folk have in this country (Carpathian Shepherds???) and the bigger devils they have in Turkey and up into Russia. Certainly the Facebook page used to post pictures of dead wolves and blooded dogs till Fb started putting advisory notices over the pictures.
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
@Ffermer Bach I think there are two types, the big woolly ones folk have in this country (Carpathian Shepherds???) and the bigger devils they have in Turkey and up into Russia. Certainly the Facebook page used to post pictures of dead wolves and blooded dogs till Fb started putting advisory notices over the pictures.
hopefully, we will never need to find out!
 

Macsky

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Livestock Farmer
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Highland
David, I suspect that you will few, if any, livestock keepers anywhere, who would consider the introduction (it is not a re-introduction!) of a top line predator to be sensible or well considered. Keep any release of any such animals on Scottish island, not in the wider landscape.
Rockall?
 

curlietailz

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Arable Farmer
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Sedgefield
Could the OP suggest how many pet cats and dogs would be eaten by lynx. And if a group of Scouts or Guides camping in the highlands would be safe from being attacked by the lynx at all times
 

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