But if you’re sat in an office and are keen on rewilding for whatever daft reason the words guardian dog is a fabulous concept to enable your dreams to continue. Your dreams. Other people’s nightmares.
Dissertation Research - Lynx Reintroduction *Admin Approved*
- Thread starter MS2022
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But might keep an overgrown moggy away....
- Location
- South Devon
What's the best call for a Scottish Wildcat ?
Mouse squeak , Distressed Rabbit or Here puss puss ?
Paddington
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- Location
- Soggy Shropshire
Do llamas keep foxes away from sheep ? I've heard differing accounts, the llama breeders say they do, but they would say that.
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Paddington
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- Location
- Soggy Shropshire
With all these rewilding schemes there seems to be a common factor of no responsibility from the people who introduce the "endangered species". We received a survey from the local wildlife group on introducing beavers into Shropshire. The questions as I remember were of the "did you know ?" type, as in beavers can prevent towns being flooded. 
There was no question about whether you were in favour or not. They were relying on natural boundaries to keep the beavers in the area, which suggests they don't know much about beavers. I don't even think there was a place for comments, in which case I would have entered see Tierra del Fuego ? Presumably all the returned surveys would show 100% in favour.
There was no question about whether you were in favour or not. They were relying on natural boundaries to keep the beavers in the area, which suggests they don't know much about beavers. I don't even think there was a place for comments, in which case I would have entered see Tierra del Fuego ? Presumably all the returned surveys would show 100% in favour.
toquark
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When I lived in Aberdeenshire, we used to get wildcats, never caused much bother tbh, but when one was killed on the road the local eco-worthies were all out. You'd have thought a child had been hit and left for dead the number of vehicles were at the scene. This thing was massive, a big Tom and by looking at it you'd have said it was definitely a wildcat, but the DNA tested it and found out it was 75% domestic blood. So definitely one to be shot according to SNH.
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
I have read that there is a big problem with hybridisation with domestic cats, personally, I think domestic cats are a disaster for wildlife/birds and should be kept indoors and not let out unless on a lead, but that is another matter!
I suspect its just part of the agenda to get rid of sheep farmers for good. And it will probably work, job is an up hill battle at the best of times and I doubt many put up with bloody cats taking half your living away every year. Take the tree grants and go do something else....
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
if that does happen, one day, clothes will become so expensive because the cost/availability of oil will and topsoil will be lost that an "expert" will suddenly realise that maybe mixing growing crops with grazing animals is a good new idea!
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
This area is called Cadbol or The Place of the Cat'. When I first arrived here 40 years ago, there was a big wild cat sitting on the edge of the whins as I drove down the track.
One year I shot what was obviously a hybrid. It was completely black except for a white chest. Holding it by the back legs with my arm parallel to the ground, it's feet touched the ground, so as big as a fox. They are not as rare as people think, though I have not seen one around here for years. Too much night vision and amateur fox hunters!
- Location
- Essex
Are wildcats and domestic moggies different strains of the same species?
I understand that all domestic cats started out in Egypt
When did wildcats get here? Did they come with humans or make their own way?
I understand that all domestic cats started out in Egypt
When did wildcats get here? Did they come with humans or make their own way?
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Wildcats are native, domesticated cats are of Egyptian/far eastern origin.
A lady tried for a long time to have Kellas cats recognised as wild cats native to Scotland. However DNA testing proved the massive cats she was finding and sent by 'keepers were all Egyptian/eastern (domesticated) and Scottish wildcat hybrids. Those cats were huge, reportedly up to 7Kg and one preserved in a museum was apparently 1.1m from nose to tail. They were declared a locally adapted hybrid but for the sake of the remnant wildcats it was also stated they should be removed from the environment.
I acknowledge I live in an area where there is a remnant colony of wildcats, if I began to have losses due to them I would increase my security and accept that they were here first. There is no way on earth I'd accept losses from an animal known to be detrimental to livestock introduced by someone unwilling to make recompense for the harm created by their experiment on land they do not own and have no vested financial interest in.
A lady tried for a long time to have Kellas cats recognised as wild cats native to Scotland. However DNA testing proved the massive cats she was finding and sent by 'keepers were all Egyptian/eastern (domesticated) and Scottish wildcat hybrids. Those cats were huge, reportedly up to 7Kg and one preserved in a museum was apparently 1.1m from nose to tail. They were declared a locally adapted hybrid but for the sake of the remnant wildcats it was also stated they should be removed from the environment.
I acknowledge I live in an area where there is a remnant colony of wildcats, if I began to have losses due to them I would increase my security and accept that they were here first. There is no way on earth I'd accept losses from an animal known to be detrimental to livestock introduced by someone unwilling to make recompense for the harm created by their experiment on land they do not own and have no vested financial interest in.
pycoed
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- Location
- Pontarddulais, UK
I've actually seen a llama surprised by a fox in gorse patches in sheep pasture/mountain & run away. Fox was chased down a steep slope by my neighbour's horse who clearly meant business.
Another neighbour ran 2 llamas with his sheep, but was still losing lambs one spring. My son stayed out & shot two foxes in the sheep field within 50 yds of his 2 llamas. Neighbour sold the llamas on & replaced them with a blue strobe type lamp that he's been happy with the last couple of years' lambings...Mind you we have a couple of regular night vision shooters in the valley these days.
pycoed
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- Location
- Pontarddulais, UK
Clearly nuts!
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
I've just read an article by The GWCT regarding pine martin reintroductions and they specifically mention that in order for a release to be considered according to legislation there must be a mitigation and an exit policy. Mitigation meaning a means of ensuring current land use must not be compromised and recompense must be paid should harm occur and exit meaning a way of bringing an experiment to a full stop should significant harm be demonstrated to be a continuing threat. I haven't heard any proponent of lynx release mention either of them.
Just watch the Scottish wildlife documentary dog soldiers you’ll soon get the picture
- Location
- Essex
I suspect he's reading the research results.