'Ditching dairy' - cafe banning cow milk in coffee - thoughts?
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Cowabunga
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A good meeting place for nutters. There's a lot about don't you know!
Netherfield
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Can't see it catching on to be honest, those that are going to take any notice probably don't drink milk already.
Cowabunga
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They'll probably offer soya from 'sustainable' growers in recently cleared areas that were formerly rainforest instead.
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Should finish with '....and compulsory'
This is the problem which is very difficult for the dairy industry to address.
Point out which bit isn't true.......just sayin.
I think there is a marketing opportunity for a premium brand of milk produced from cows of a more beef type where their calves are all reared for beef or replacements.
Point out which bit isn't true.......just sayin.
I think there is a marketing opportunity for a premium brand of milk produced from cows of a more beef type where their calves are all reared for beef or replacements.
RushesToo
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The ingredients of milk are . . . Milk.
The ingredients of soya are:
Water, Hulled SOYA beans (8%), Sugar, Acidity regulators (Monopotassium phosphate, Dipotassium phosphate), Calcium (Calcium carbonate), Flavouring, Sea salt, Stabiliser (Gellan gum), Vitamins (Riboflavin (B2), B12, D2)
I know which I would drink.
Additionally I don't support cutting down tropical rainforests.
The ingredients of soya are:
Water, Hulled SOYA beans (8%), Sugar, Acidity regulators (Monopotassium phosphate, Dipotassium phosphate), Calcium (Calcium carbonate), Flavouring, Sea salt, Stabiliser (Gellan gum), Vitamins (Riboflavin (B2), B12, D2)
I know which I would drink.
Additionally I don't support cutting down tropical rainforests.
Sheepie0000
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Vegans are totally nuts, I think the thing is that it's not that they really give a toss they just want signal to each other how virtuous they are.
scatterbrainedlass
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Coffee with no milk?? Lattes are almost totally milk!! These vegans are bonkers, I saw a post in a group I'm a part of asking about vegan washing powder. Didn't think animal products went into Persil!!
FonterraFarmer
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It appears that "social media" is the format of choice of those with the lowest intellect to expresss themselves, farming forums excluded obviously.
Roger Perry
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Better get on board guys, as consumers become more informed and dare I say affluent they will turn away from the traditional foods, not all but a significant number.
The fastest growing segment in U.S. agriculture is organic's, people can afford it and demand is growing.
Become a supplier to that need and rewards await you.
The fastest growing segment in U.S. agriculture is organic's, people can afford it and demand is growing.
Become a supplier to that need and rewards await you.
Cowabunga
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Except that they don't like sh!t spread anywhere near their backyards. Or downwind. And nobody like hand weeding either.
Pieces_of_Eight
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How much of soya milk is GM?
llamedos
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Jumping on a bandwagon https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index...r-watching-youtube-video.164582/#post-3628704
Why give them airtime/column inches.
Why give them airtime/column inches.
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There appears to be a bit of an onslaught from the Vegan camp to discredit agriculture. Sadly it is to easy to film terrible examples of bad practice, that we all need to respond to.
The cafe owner will one day wake and realise that what he witnessed on the video although shocking, is not isolated. In Africa, many children are given glue to sniff from an early age, this is child abuse of the worst magnitude, so will the cafe now ban Africans ?
In China there is a shocking practice of skinning mink alive, so are the Chinese now banned ?
What about tax evasion and the depriving of Countries of much needed revenue, some of which is spent on welfare, are now going to ban coffee suppliers .....etc, etc, etc.......
Hypocrisy of the worst kind.....
Yet another extremist story, however embraced by a National : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4354586/Shocking-pictures-calves-battery-farm-Dorset.html
The cafe owner will one day wake and realise that what he witnessed on the video although shocking, is not isolated. In Africa, many children are given glue to sniff from an early age, this is child abuse of the worst magnitude, so will the cafe now ban Africans ?
In China there is a shocking practice of skinning mink alive, so are the Chinese now banned ?
What about tax evasion and the depriving of Countries of much needed revenue, some of which is spent on welfare, are now going to ban coffee suppliers .....etc, etc, etc.......
Hypocrisy of the worst kind.....
Yet another extremist story, however embraced by a National : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4354586/Shocking-pictures-calves-battery-farm-Dorset.html
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multi power
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There already is
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I am of course biased as I've been involved within the dairy supply industry for all my working life, but what nonsense! I've also been involved in marketing and this has the feel of a very disjointed attempt to differentiate themselves from other similar establishments. What it sadly does is make milk production sound like it's unethical! They should look at all their suppliers after which they may find they couldn't bring themselves to trade with anything!!
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Cowabunga
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Do vegan farmers, if there is such a thing, not trap and kill moles and pest insects and other live species? That includes all arable farmers who kill tens of thousands of things when they sow and cultivate and indeed harvest. In some cases introducing species that eat other species that would otherwise eat or spread disease in crops.
Vegans are so divorced from the reality of life and life and death and its intimate relationship with whatever food they eat, that they really are to be pitied. They are deprived of a grounding in the reality of their existence on Earth. Their place as humans in the Universe. Their footprint on life and death every day of their lives whether they interact or eat animals or use their byproducts or not. If they were really sincere in their belief they would not compromise and would certainly not procreate more of their own species and would wish for their own existence to extinguish so that other species would survive until a more 'natural' death [which is not the way of nature at all, it being the most cruel of masters].
MickMoor
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Yesterday morning, I pulled up at some traffic lights alongside a twin axle cattle trailer, towed by a Discovery. I guess it was heading for Bakewell. There were two young animals in it, couldn't telll much else about them, but they were small enough to turn round easily. I glanced at the wheels of the trailer, and noticed that both tyres had serious cracks in the sidewalls; the bearing cap off one wheel was missing, and it doidn't look like the bearings hadbeen been looked at over the past twelve months. In short, an accident waiting to happen.This is not just a safety issure, but a welfare issue. The animals would be seriuosly hurt and scared. It may lose me a few customer, but ALL farmers should stop being so smug, and get a grip. Somebody else will have spotted that as well. If another farmer,the man or woman should be told. If a policeman, (unlikely, which is part of the problem), the book should be thrown at the driver; if an urban coloniser, another stick to beat our industry with. It is not just lads on big tractors with a phone glued to their ears, it is everybody.