Do farmers forget about inflation???

[Bossfarmer]

a lot of farmers are excited that wheat is near £160 for next November but for instance £160 today was £87/t back in 1996 when wheat actually hit £173/t near double todays price with a fraction of the cost, the public are constantly complaining that wages arent rising fast enough yet noone on here or anyone else has pointed out farm subsidies are not linked to inflation why?? say you were getting 40k 10 years ago you should now get 50k or you have in fact have a large cut, are farmers scared to speak up?? wages are near £10/hr machinery too has followed inflation and will continue to do so, whats the situation going to be 10 years from now? wages up to £13/14/hr £180 for ones of clives 724 fendts?

 

[Shughie McFee]

it suits the last man standing agenda

 

[Bossfarmer]

it suits the last man standing agenda

it strikes me as odd when a farmer says they cant believe the price of kit now? its much the same as it was 20 years ago its just followed inflation.....as you'd expect?

 

[lazy farmer]

So we are back to blaming the people thesis again are we ?

 

[Bossfarmer]

So we are back to blaming the people thesis again are we ?

im not blaming anyone im saying DO farmers forget about inflation?? mabye you can answer

 

[DrDunc]

Farm gate prices are at best, what they were ten years ago

Farm subsidy is at best what it was twenty years ago

Seed, feed, fertiliser and fuel have all at least doubled in the last decade

Machinery has way more then doubled in the last ten years



SO HOW THE HELL ARE WE STILL IN BUSINESS??????




And still the laird wants a rent rise ?

 

[lazy farmer]

I sell a commodity based on supply and demand. It doesn’t matter what I think about inflation.

 

[Bossfarmer]

Farm gate prices are at best, what they were ten years ago

Farm subsidy is at best what it was twenty years ago

Seed, feed, fertiliser and fuel have all at least doubled in the last decade

Machinery has way more then doubled in the last ten years



SO HOW THE HELL ARE WE STILL IN BUSINESS??????




And still the laird wants a rent rise ?

Why is there talks about cutting farm support when it has ALREADY been cut even if you are getting the same as 10yrs ago which is unlikely, yet costs only going one way, its getting to a point farms are EXPECTED to continue with free family labour and take less than the postie earns as drawings even though most farms have multiple generations living off them yet there is a "STIGMA" that if you speak up you are a subsidy junkie and that if subs went all would be cured machinery and labour costs would suddenly drop to "sensible" levels? INFLATION

 

[Bossfarmer]

I sell a commodity based on supply and demand. It doesn’t matter what I think about inflation.

perhaps some thought to it would be wise?

 

[Still Farming]

Everyone that sells to us remembers?
We do remember to add but usually get what we are given???

 

[borderterribles]

I sold some surplus finished pigs, by auction, this Monday. Two pens. The gilts did ok @ 1.48/kg, but the boars @1.08/kg were 3p a kilo more than the last I sold by auction. Unremarkable, until you know that the last time sold this way was.................. . In December 1986

 

[Steevo]

And still the laird wants a rent rise ?

Course he does.....inflation!

 

[Still Farming]

Only the rain comes down ,don't you know?

 

[lazy farmer]

perhaps some thought to it would be wise?

Why I can’t influence it ? I maximise the quality of the product I sell and control my costs.

 

[oil barron]

In 2008 crude oil was $148 a bbl. today it is $55. That is the commodity business. One unit too much in the supply chain and there is a glut. One unit too short and there is a clamber to get it. Unfortunately grain hasn’t been in short supply since about 2010.
Need to stop treating our grain as a commodity. France has its wine grapes, Italy has pasta wheat. UK malting barley should be thought of as the same.

 

[Grass And Grain]

Good questioning @Bossfarmer .

I want more for my produce. How do we fix the problem.

Some people have tried to mitigate the income loss by producing more, but we can't all do that.

Our representatives should be campaigning for index linked sub increases.

Can't think of anything else. Except maybe going on strike. Seems as though farmers in a few European countries have been demonstrating lately.

I think the industry must be close to breaking point.

Afraid I don't have the answers, except maybe buy and sell everything through one single UK co-operative like Clive was suggesting in a recent thread. That would help.

At the moment, my thoughts are diversify or die a slow economic death. Very sad that society does not value or support its farmers.

I think we need a much stronger and active farmers union.to organise things.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

I sell a commodity based on supply and demand. It doesn’t matter what I think about inflation.

In the UK, processors control the supply and the supermarkets control the demand.
If there was a proper market, prices would not be where they are now.

 

[Greythundercloudys]

How can you control your cost, everything keeps going up from sheep netting to a tractor, every few months a little gets added. Will we just stand still.

 

[Shughie McFee]

it strikes me as odd when a farmer says they cant believe the price of kit now? its much the same as it was 20 years ago its just followed inflation.....as you'd expect?

and we don't buy 80hp tractors with bog standard cabs anymore either.
in another thread, in the USA they buy no thrills tractors, and keep them longer. sounds sensible to me.
how often do you hear on here....." beef jobs on it's knees ", " any money in sheep ? ", " contractors not making money ". yet folks still buy £100k tractors. ?‍ the longer i spend in the industry, the more mystified i get.

 

[d williams]

a lot of farmers are excited that wheat is near £160 for next November but for instance £160 today was £87/t back in 1996 when wheat actually hit £173/t near double todays price with a fraction of the cost, the public are constantly complaining that wages arent rising fast enough yet noone on here or anyone else has pointed out farm subsidies are not linked to inflation why?? say you were getting 40k 10 years ago you should now get 50k or you have in fact have a large cut, are farmers scared to speak up?? wages are near £10/hr machinery too has followed inflation and will continue to do so, whats the situation going to be 10 years from now? wages up to £13/14/hr £180 for ones of clives 724 fendts?

I think you maybe already behind the times with your wages