ollie989898
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To be fair I say things that are out of line myself, in the heat of the moment - do you remember the first PM I sent you, and what that was about?
(I wasn't even drunk, and still had a hissy fit, so karma is a bitch....)
A sincere apology has been received and accepted, these things happen.
I know it may seem that us upside-downers all gang together but it is likely just how we have adapted to suit our environment and how that change has in turn influenced our beliefs and values and economy - everything really is as interrelated and interdependent as it seems.
No more so than when distortion is in play, it is reasonably easy to see in UK agriculture that all farming is dependant on other farming practices and sectors to a much greater degree than it is down here: lack of bought in inputs and competition for acres means each farm is much more "standalone" is one of the big contrasts I see.
So, in the likely outcome of environmental payments replacing area payments how does the suckler job adapt to suit?
Do lighter carcasses and more of them make sense, or does Tb make that even more risky than lesser numbers of more valuable stock?
As a bit of an aside, there currently are large numbers of animals moving to where the feed is - notable because it is the reverse of the usual seasonal pattern here - is moving stock to where the food is a more sustainable activity than moving food to where the animals are?
As in nature, where ruminants migrate to follow food.. is that something that needs to be investigated "once the Tb is controlled"
My main recipe is to source store stock from hill farms and bring them down here to finish, hardly astrophysics but very cheap and efficient... but if I needed to get them fit to market under your grids and markets it would be much less profitable for me, whereas the hill farmers would simply put the cattle out in the tussock over the winter.
Like @Bossfarmer, I dont have a big tussock covered hill block so that isnt an option for us, nor can I outwinter big cattle without major flow-on effects from compaction...
That brings me back to the EUROP grading grid - is it for for purpose in the future for cattle, for lamb even?
Those last kilos are the expensive ones if it takes corn
I agree Pete, but arguing to and fro on a forum is one thing, par for the course, but threatening or abuse via PM or other channels is plain wrong.
