That's true. When I was 17 or so I was put in charge of our syndicate shoot as Dad was away. I'd beaten and picked up on a few big estate shoots with some top name chaps and it always amazed me how they reacted to a telling off from the gamekeeper who was absolute boss for the day. That day a chap up the road strolled down a steep bank in winter with a loaded side by side over his shoulder and then turned and took a shot at a bird no more than 4 feet off the ground beside a hedge in which our local PC was beating. I sent him home there and then which he was not at all happy about. Later that evening he came down, apologised, said I was quite right and we shook hands. To say I was bricking it through the whole thing would be an understatement. Good man, sadly died from a brain tumour far too young.
Do we need stricter gun laws?
- Thread starter Stuart J
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caveman
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- East Sussex.
Massive failure in the licensing system and the individuals administering it.You are not living in the real world , so you think that someone who wants to shoot a few pigeons over stubble or knock a few rabbits/foxes off on ground they own should have to join a clay pigeon club? ,, you really havent thought this through , maybe you are a civil servant , the system in place works perfectly well if the current laws and rules are adhered to , unfortunately they weren't in the case of the latest incident , I dont entirely blame the Police though for re issuing to perpetrators license , there are nearly 40 thousand license holders in Devon & Cornwall and only around 10 staff to oversee licensing .
You can't tell me that 40000 licence holders are all applying at the same time to have their licences renewed, after having had them revoked, especially with all the bells and whistles that should of been going off against that fellas name on a computer.
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The Seeker
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Most say you need a gun as a substitute for something else , but hey im
not judging
not judging
caveman
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- Location
- East Sussex.
No.
They're for getting the under cowman up the aisle when he's been at your daughter.
- Location
- People's Republic of South Yorkshire
Thread revival.
The bloke i spoke about earlier in the thread has finally been granted a shotgun license.
He has bought an old gun right away and showed me it.
Said he was suprised how cheap they are, might get more.
Asked him what he wanted them for.
He dont know, just wants guns.
He never done any sort of shooting.
Dont like killing things.
No intrest in clay shooting.
But oh well, police thinks he needs a shotgun license...
The bloke i spoke about earlier in the thread has finally been granted a shotgun license.
He has bought an old gun right away and showed me it.
Said he was suprised how cheap they are, might get more.
Asked him what he wanted them for.
He dont know, just wants guns.
He never done any sort of shooting.
Dont like killing things.
No intrest in clay shooting.
But oh well, police thinks he needs a shotgun license...
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- Fife
Everyone in the UK (provided haven't been sentenced to longer than 5 years jail) has the right to a shotgun. The onus is on the authorities to come up with a good reason why now.
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
I was just going to write the same, you don't need a reason to own a shotgun, rather the police need to find a good reason why they don't allow one to be issued and their dislike of the public owning shotguns is not a good reason.
- Location
- People's Republic of South Yorkshire
Yeah, but as i wrote last year, i think ppl should need to show what they need it for and also need some sort of gun safety training.
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
I tend to disagree, we already have too many interfering bureaucrats and laws that impinge on our autonomy.
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
The Texan way?
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
there seems to be a problem with the culture in the US and disenfranchised youths who seem to hate everyone, I have no idea how to change that, we have had Islamic terrorists stabbing people with kitchen knives or driving cars into crowds, again a problem with culture and attitudes not a problem with cars or kitchen knives.
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
That’s true, to an extent, but it’s certainly difficult to do as much damage with a kitchen knife as you can with a firearm. I certainly couldn’t kill someone from 20yards with a sabatier.
Best they should do is repeal the 2nd (it’s an amendment, and the majority of the population want that to happen), get a big chunk out of circulation, impose strict penalties in carrying in public, do a few years of stop and search etc. The answer is not armed guards on classroom doors.
Second best? Get a senior court to rule that the NRA is not a “well regulated militia” and only those in (e.g. the home guard, police or national guard) can own any firearm.
Danllan
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- Sir Gar / Carms
I have passed on my concerns about similar individuals to the police twice before and will do so again if I think a situation warrants it. One of them subsequently had his licence revoked, a closer investigation revealing that he had acted with intimidatingly towards work colleagues on several occasions. As far as I know the other still has his guns...
Where can this right be found? I am very familiar with all current and recent firearms legislation and other applicable law in the Anglo-Welsh Jurisdiction, and I have no idea where it is - or how I can have missed it.
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- Fife
I have passed on my concerns about similar individuals to the police twice before and will do so again if I think a situation warrants it. One of them subsequently had his licence revoked, a closer investigation revealing that he had acted with intimidatingly towards work colleagues on several occasions. As far as I know the other still has his guns...
Where can this right be found? I am very familiar with all current and recent firearms legislation and other applicable law in the Anglo-Welsh Jurisdiction, and I have no idea where it is - or how I can have missed it.
I'm probably misquoting it. But my understanding was that anyone can apply a licence. For a firearms licence the the applicant must have a good reason to be granted. For a shotgun licence the police must have food reason to refuse.
I'm not sure where the exact legislation can be found.
Greythundercloudys
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Iv been waiting 5 months for an airgun license up here in Scotland, god only knows what a rifle would be.
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
I have a feeling easier, as shot gun/fire arm are UK wide legislation, where as air rifle is totally run by the devolved administration.
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- Fife
I stand corrected. As you state, a failure to follow proceedures existing not a need for new ones