Do we need to bring back the NRA
- Thread starter Gill Horse
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Interesting. Riparian landowners have a legal duty to accept flow from upstream and pass it downstream without significant material change as the foundation of English land drainage law. Unless they can clearly prove that their actions have not cause flooding (and economic loss) on the part of another landowner they would be hard put to defence a legal action for damages.
A good land drainage barrister would have a field day with this.
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
They have no DUTY to act so are not liable.
Their only legal DUTY is to "have an overview of flood risks" and to "operate a flood warning service". Everything else is optional in law.
Wolds Beef
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Henry Ward from Bardney on the National News. The EA has not even spoken to them as of Tuesday Night!! House and Yard cut of and a t least a year before they can crop it again. More heavy rain expected tomorrow! They have made no attempt to stem the flow because they are frightened it will flood Bardney itself!
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Gill Horse
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- Location
- lancashire
This is why I started this thread.
Surely it would make sense to bring back the NRA or something similar who's main role would be to maintain and if necessary improve the national system of main waterways with the aim of keeping the water flowing out to sea as efficiently and effectively as is humanly possible. They should have the power to enforce whatever improvements that are deemed necessary for the greater good of the nation.
The EA don't appear to have any interest in keeping the water flowing. Their focus seems to be protecting water voles etc.
I might be being brutal here but in my opinion they are not fit for purpose!!!!
As I've stated earlier leave the EA to monitor the environmental issues but have another authority ( NRA or whoever) with sharp teeth so that they can grasp the nettle and sort this problem out before it turns into a national disaster!!!!!
If they have no duty to protect from flooding why do I get a letter from them once a year demanding money in the form of drainage rates?
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
You pay drainage rates to the EA? ?
Can you post a photo of their latest demand please? I know IDB's are funded by direct drainage rates but, unless the funding rules have changed since I left in December 2014, the EA drainage work is funded from the council tax precept (maintenance) or central government grant (capital works).
I'm happy to be corrected, just interested.
Will look for it later
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
The Environment Agency also provides a flood warning service and manages the risks presented by coastal erosion. General Drainage Charges are payable even if land is not near to a river or the coast and are charged at a uniform rate per hectare in the area of each Regional Flood and Coastal Committee.1 Apr 2016
General Drainage Charges - CLA
https://www.cla.org.uk › default › files › Eastern › GDC Charges 2016 - 2017
General Drainage Charges - CLA
https://www.cla.org.uk › default › files › Eastern › GDC Charges 2016 - 2017
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Drainage charges for occupiers of land in the Anglian area
Check if you need to pay drainage charges, how much they are and how to pay.
Yes, we pay the EA general drainage charge on areas outside the IDB which is typically land over a certain height.
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Thank you both.Drainage charges for occupiers of land in the Anglian area
Check if you need to pay drainage charges, how much they are and how to pay.www.gov.uk
Yes, we pay the EA general drainage charge on areas outside the IDB which is typically land over a certain height.
That only applies in Anglian Region then according to that document. I have only worked in Thames Region and, whilst aware of the role of IDB's (which Thames Region does not have) have never paid such a charge in my capacity as a land owner nor even heard of such a charge.
Does the guidance include any opportunity to scrutinise maintenance plans? If not then I consider it fails the long established principle of "no taxation without representation".
That’s saved me going back to the office to try and find it . I am not aware of any way of seeing what the ea plans to do with the money,the idb do a great job and imho they should have charge over all the rivers in our area,the ea are just not fit for purpose anymore
Gill Horse
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- Location
- lancashire
Maybe we need a national idb??????????????
I cannot agree with you more about the EA when it comes to water management
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
I believe, where there is an IDB they collect the EA precept. For the isle of Sheppey this precept is about 50% of their income
Gill Horse
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- Location
- lancashire
Artificial rugby pitch ruckles up like a carpet as floods wreak havoc
Derby Rugby Club bosses were stunned when they saw their £400,000 3G playing surface ruined by the recent floods. The club's ground was hit by days of torrential rain.
Best kept local otherwise the money would disappear corruptly like now be used for political gain
Paddington
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- Location
- Soggy Shropshire
Re the checking of house location before buying, our house is around 800ft ASL and 20ft above a watercourse, so we couldn't imagine any threat of flooding. After we bought the house we found out that part of the house used to flood regularly after heavy rain, but the previous owners had sorted it with drainage. A few years later our outbuildings started flooding during winter until I put in further drains across the bottom of the field. It occurred to me that hundreds of years ago people had lived with flooding as long as the water was clean and not silt from rivers.
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
The watercourse management plans are published every year:
River and coastal maintenance programmes
Planned activities and indicative funding for river and coastal maintenance.
IIRC it doesn't actually tell you much though.....
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
Yes, this! IDB collect the money and pass a fair chunk onto the EA. like Tesco etc. do with VAT to the govt.
The EA pocket the cash and do zero maintenance on "main rivers" which the IDB can't touch. Madness.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I suspect that the EA would complain if we attempted to do much ditching ourselves.