Do we now need a serious farming union

[nelly55]

Do we now need a serious farming union like other countries etc,that has the same clout as other unions in this country.Or will NFU fight our corner

 

[Raider112]

Do we now need a serious farming union like other countries etc,that has the same clout as other unions in this country.Or will NFU fight our corner

We all need to join the BFU unless the NFU are going to have a policy rethink.

 

[Still Farming]

Any more Knighted???

 

[gone up the hill]

We all need to join the BFU unless the NFU are going to have a policy rethink.

BFU will go no where as long as they keep doing everything behind closed doors like they have been doing!

 

[livestock 1]

Until we can agree amongst ourselves then we won’t get far

 

[Hilly]

Until we can agree amongst ourselves then we won’t get far

We are better at going backwards as forwards. .

 

[livestock 1]

We are better at going backwards as forwards. .

The system gives to some and takes from others as long as that’s happening we will be divided. It might be deliberate

 

[Hilly]

The system gives to some and takes from others as long as that’s happening we will be divided. It might be deliberate

United we stand divided we fall , hmmm

 

[livestock 1]

There’s people on here have signed up to the BFU then had no contact since. They aren’t happy

 

[Hilly]

There’s people on here have signed up to the BFU then had no contact since. They aren’t happy

I was one of the first to vote with my wallet but , never heard another peep they just feked off with my money but apparently its only a tenner so doesn’t matter .

 

[livestock 1]

I was one of the first to vote with my wallet but , never heard another peep they just feked off with my money but apparently its only a tenner so doesn’t matter .

I was thinking about what you had said

 

[Hilly]

I was thinking about what you had said

Gave up i never see or hear i think they have as well .

 

[livestock 1]

The NFU have ran up the retailers arses there’s been a lot of exposure as to what they have been up to. They seem to have forgotten what they are supposed to be doing and who they are working for. The trouble is that the money earned by us farmers has been taken by the retailers with them setting the bar for prices. I suppose it’s only human nature to join the money club but this has been one of the worst examples of that.

 

[Raider112]

BFU will go no where as long as they keep doing everything behind closed doors like they have been doing!

That's why I said we all have to join, they aren't going to have much influence if it's just a few hundred paying 10 pounds a year.
The NFU are already established but don't seem to want to rock the boat and we are going to need someone who will in the next few years.
BFU members can engage with the leadership on the members section on here so it's not really behind closed doors unless you aren't a member, if you aren't I don't get your point.

 

[soapsud]

That's why I said we all have to join, they aren't going to have much influence if it's just a few hundred paying 10 pounds a year.
The NFU are already established but don't seem to want to rock the boat and we are going to need someone who will in the next few years.
BFU members can engage with the leadership on the members section on here so it's not really behind closed doors unless you aren't a member, if you aren't I don't get your point.

Enough of the core BFUers post on the open forums to get a sense of what the TFF Union is up to. I'd join but don't any CPHs in my name, and besides, the Mrs thinks I spend too much time on here as it is

My interest is where the science intersects with the politics. e.g. We can whinge about issues like corporations promoting meat-free or diary-free foods or oil companies blaming livestock farmers for methane, but what can we do about it?

As you say, once the BFU gets enough members and omov on important issues are presented to Defra's Secretary of State

"We balloted 10,000 livestock farmers on TFF if they liked the Tory SFI and they told us ..."

then they can't ignore that. After all, politicians are led by argument of scientific evidence but, in addition to that, they're drawn to keeping their vote share (The ABC of politics = Always Be Campaigning).

The trick for the the BFU as it grows is to show how it is politically savvy for our politicians to turn the corporate spin of plausible deniability and deflection that castigates farmers into a positive. No easy thing!

Part of that will mean politicising farmers which as @Hilly and @livestock 1 both say isn't easy. Few young farmers have the time and few of us older lot have the brains or the energy.