dock control in grassland

[Tarw Coch]

Real shame Asulox is not still easily available as it only killed docks not clover, ridiculous that it was banned on grassland!

And Alistel/Legumex on new leys

 

[Tarw Coch]

Whats best for spot spraying with a quad? Do they still make ally i think it was called?

Pretty sure they do, as for wether it’s licensed for spot spraying is another matter, there plenty of chemicals out there licensed for use in a sprayer that ain’t licensed for spot spraying

 

[daveydiesel1]

Pretty sure they do, as for wether it’s licensed for spot spraying is another matter, there plenty of chemicals out there licensed for use in a sprayer that ain’t licensed for spot spraying

Tbh i dont really give a hoot what its liesenced for. Im more interested in will it kill the bugger dead or just stun them. I used forefront on spot spraying after advice from some1 that should know what hes on about and they are back growing again this year

 

[Bruce Almighty]

I use Pivotal for docks & Prevail for thistles
1 l / ha of each, going early enough at this time of year allows you to keep the rate down.

I also use MCPA on thistles which knocks them down but they come back, but at least the clover survives.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

why can’t you mix doxstar and thistlex?
That’s what pas - tor is !

No idea ,I asked my spray man and he said it go like paste and blocks his nozzles

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I use Pivotal for docks & Prevail for thistles
1 l / ha of each, going early enough at this time of year allows you to keep the rate down.

I also use MCPA on thistles which knocks them down but they come back, but at least the clover survives.

Mcpa on Thissle is an expensive way of topping

 

[Farmer Fin]

Whats best for spot spraying with a quad? Do they still make ally i think it was called?

If it’s spot spraying individual plants - Grazon Pro. But it’s like all the other chemistry you have to get the dock at the right growth stage.

 

[JPB]

1 litre of fluroxpyr and 1litre of thistlex will work grand. That's what I use if there's both thistles and docks, or just docks I go with 2litres of fluroxpyr (galgone, minstrel, hurler) etc

 

[DaveGrohl]

Timing is the crucial thing with docks, as every thread on docks explains. Fluroxypr at a reasonable rate but timed perfectly will kill most of them. Some will not be killed because they’re too young or too old, deal with it.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Anybody used Squire Ultra, (amidosulfuron)?
I've bought a bottle to try out this year.

 

[BrianV]

Uncle always swore by the old half rate of Asulox dock spray in the spring then same again in the Autumn, fortunately Asulan is still available for "bracken" spraying in July.

 

[davidroberts30]

Timing is the crucial thing with docks, as every thread on docks explains. Fluroxypr at a reasonable rate but timed perfectly will kill most of them. Some will not be killed because they’re too young or too old, deal with it.

Exactly
Best control I've had is after 3rd cut in july/early August
At 1st cut theres too much variation in the dock
By 3rd cut they all at the same growth stage same time

 

[DaveGrohl]

Exactly
Best control I've had is after 3rd cut in july/early August
At 1st cut theres too much variation in the dock
By 3rd cut they all at the same growth stage same time

After a cut of silage is ideal, as you’ve made clear. Go twice in one season (half rate fluroxypyr) and you’ll nail almost all of them.

 

[john mc d]

Real shame Asulox is not still easily available as it only killed docks not clover, ridiculous that it was banned on grassland!

couldnt agree more , what with all this banging on about clover perfectly safe on grassland
unsafe on brocilla or aspargus or something

 

[Kevtherev]

Anybody used Squire Ultra, (amidosulfuron)?
I've bought a bottle to try out this year.

Yes works well but seems a very slow kill

 

[benny6910]

Sorry to jump on this thread but I’ve got a small field that I would like to sow wild flowers in but it’s full of docks and nettles. Is there anything I could overall spray the wild flowers with to control the docks or am I wasting my time sowing the wild flowers. The docks come from the river next to it as it gets cleaned out most years and the spoil levelled in the field.

 

[milkloss]

Anybody used Squire Ultra, (amidosulfuron)?
I've bought a bottle to try out this year.

Yes. It works but only if you don’t cut or graze the field for 6weeks. It makes them bloody sick if you cut/ damage them sooner though and a shot of mcpa will easily finish them off when they come back.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Adas have been doing work on our many trail plots here for years , mainly on docks and lately chickweed , testing Clover safe sprays , hope something eventually comes out of it

 

[DaveGrohl]

Sorry to jump on this thread but I’ve got a small field that I would like to sow wild flowers in but it’s full of docks and nettles. Is there anything I could overall spray the wild flowers with to control the docks or am I wasting my time sowing the wild flowers. The docks come from the river next to it as it gets cleaned out most years and the spoil levelled in the field.

Sounds like you need to spray them before you start with sowing the wild flowers. Wouldn’t be able to spray after surely because you’ll kill the wild flowers? Docks need to be growing well, nettles are easy to kill.

 

[benny6910]

Sounds like you need to spray them before you start with sowing the wild flowers. Wouldn’t be able to spray after surely because you’ll kill the wild flowers? Docks need to be growing well, nettles are easy to kill.

It’s sprayed off now was sown last year but just full of docks so sprayed it off a month ago. Sounds like I may have to grass it down and spray the dock for a few years