dock control in grassland

Derrick Hughes

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Ceredigion
Would like to see a link to that trial work as find it very interesting.
I never get to see the results , confidential I expect , they have around a thousand small potato plots as well testing for Blight , you can see a massive variation in those but no idea what they use
Ibers used to test phosphates here , or Ibers that was then 40 years ago then Adas took over the plots
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
One thing I remember that came out of the studies was that a lot of West Wales soils have a high Iron Ochre Content , the brown stuff that blocks drains , especially the plastic type ,not so much the clays , anyway this can have the effect of locking up nutritients especially Phosphate, they achieved a lot better response with quick acting phosphates rather than slow release ,
 

Sid

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
I never get to see the results , confidential I expect , they have around a thousand small potato plots as well testing for Blight , you can see a massive variation in those but no idea what they use
Ibers used to test phosphates here , or Ibers that was then 40 years ago then Adas took over the plots
Any photos ?
 

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
One thing I remember that came out of the studies was that a lot of West Wales soils have a high Iron Ochre Content , the brown stuff that blocks drains , especially the plastic type ,not so much the clays , anyway this can have the effect of locking up nutritients especially Phosphate, they achieved a lot better response with quick acting phosphates rather than slow release ,
 

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Kevtherev

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Welshpool Powys
One thing I remember that came out of the studies was that a lot of West Wales soils have a high Iron Ochre Content , the brown stuff that blocks drains , especially the plastic type ,not so much the clays , anyway this can have the effect of locking up nutritients especially Phosphate, they achieved a lot better response with quick acting phosphates rather than slow release ,
Utter rubbish ochre affects clay and plastic and don’t even argue with me about land drainage.
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
Utter rubbish ochre affects clay and plastic and don’t even argue with me about land drainage.
I'm not arguing just having a polite conversation, a very experienced land drainer told me that the ribs in plastic pipe Couse ochre to stick more also gets though the slits easier , clays filter it out a bit , but leave it at that I ain't out to Couse any offence at Easter ,
 
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Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
You confusing two points , drain blocking and locking up phosphates , it was the Adas field officer that told me it was locking up phosphates and to keep the pH well up and put plenty of muck on , no help with the drains though , guy is dead now so I can't really go back and argue with him
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
But to risk being shouted at again , there is plenty of published info to state that ochre sticks 20% more effectively to a plastic pipe than a clay , we have many clay drains still running put in before we could get plastic , most of the plastic have shut down completely
 

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
But to risk being shouted at again , there is plenty of published info to state that ochre sticks 20% more effectively to a plastic pipe than a clay , we have many clay drains still running put in before we could get plastic , most of the plastic have shut down completely
You might be right, we have 4 inch clay pipes we put in 48 years ago that are now virtually blocked with ochre
 

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