Dock sprays

[Cows 'n grass]

I know this one has been done and done but we seem to have a monumental dock crop in a few fields this year.

Last year we sprayed a couple of fields with 1.5l / ha of hatchet extra ( 200g/l fluroxypyr) and it did a reasonable job

Are there any other generic products that achieve a good kill or is it worth the much higher cost to use dockstar ( 150g/l fluroxypyr plus 150g/l tryclopyr.

Thanks.

 

[newholland]

milking goats.....

 

[clemmo]

Forefront does a cracking job on grazing fields, although expensive just docks? Or other weeds as well?

 

[Keepers]

I too have a nice crop getting on in one field this year

I was planning on using dockstar?

 

[jemski]

I do too, just in one small field. Want to get on top of them asap, so they don't drive me mad like the thistles currently are.....

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Hard work but we cut any docks off by hand bag them up then spot spray what's left with very strong roundup...if u keep on top of them then it's a piece of cake

 

[theboytheboy]

Just had some sprayed. Doxstar pro. It seems to be doing the job. Will see how if they recover after we take a cut of hay.

 

[Headless chicken]

How far off reseeding is the field. only one spray works properly on docks

 

[simmy_bull]

Hard work but we cut any docks off by hand bag them up then spot spray what's left with very strong roundup...if u keep on top of them then it's a piece of cake

That's some undertaking hats off to ya if you can keep on top of em. I've a terrible dock problem in a few field but they've got seeded on me before now so I'll probably never be free. In the wet summer of 2012 contractor was booked to spray em but it was too wet to travel at the right time and still to wet to cut for ages after that the grass all laid down and there was hundreds of docks stood up all over the field LL asked me if I was growing a different sort of forage crop tried to steer round that conversation.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

That's some undertaking hats off to ya if you can keep on top of em. I've a terrible dock problem in a few field but they've got seeded on me before now so I'll probably never be free. In the wet summer of 2012 contractor was booked to spray em but it was too wet to travel at the right time and still to wet to cut for ages after that the grass all laid down and there was hundreds of docks stood up all over the field LL asked me if I was growing a different sort of forage crop tried to steer round that conversation.

Was hard to start with...must of filled a 100 stuffed sacks...only get 10 odd a year now...best to keep on top of them or they soon get out of hand

 

[Ashtree]

Sprayed just under three weeks ago in silage ground with Dockstar Pro. Ground had already been well fertilised and ready to kick into strong growth. Weather was too cold though for potential growth to take place.
Docks look to have taken a good hit though with no discernable hit to the grass. I reckon a product which hits the target species without setting back the grass has to be worth a good premium.

 

[spin cycle]

sheep

 

[Big_D]

sheep

This! Bit worried to be honest, I find it very difficult to talk about but I have to get it out........I think I might be getting a little bit organic Seriously though most of the probs we get in farming are down to monoculture eg docks in cutting fields and most probs can be sorted with different management. Worst field for docks last year, in autumn big mob of lambs on followed by dry ewes to bare right down, rested then repeated after couple of weeks, hardly a dock to be seen this year

 

[Kevtherev]

 

[Hampton]

I know this one has been done and done but we seem to have a monumental dock crop in a few fields this year.

Last year we sprayed a couple of fields with 1.5l / ha of hatchet extra ( 200g/l fluroxypyr) and it did a reasonable job

Are there any other generic products that achieve a good kill or is it worth the much higher cost to use dockstar ( 150g/l fluroxypyr plus 150g/l tryclopyr.

Thanks.

Put some cimarron with the hatchet. Cimarron is metsulfuron (ally in arable chemistry) and does an excellent job.

 

[spin cycle]

This! Bit worried to be honest, I find it very difficult to talk about but I have to get it out........I think I might be getting a little bit organic Seriously though most of the probs we get in farming are down to monoculture eg docks in cutting fields and most probs can be sorted with different management. Worst field for docks last year, in autumn big mob of lambs on followed by dry ewes to bare right down, rested then repeated after couple of weeks, hardly a dock to be seen this year

don't worry you're in the vanguard of 'modern thinking'.....these days you need to sit down and do an 'integrated pest management plan'.....consider the alternatives to spraying

OR...just follow a few old ways of doing stuff

 

[Hampton]

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Cimarron is better than squire. Never really rated amidosulfuron compared with metsulfuron. Plus squire doesn't do chickweed very well, if at all.

 

[Hampton]

This! Bit worried to be honest, I find it very difficult to talk about but I have to get it out........I think I might be getting a little bit organic Seriously though most of the probs we get in farming are down to monoculture eg docks in cutting fields and most probs can be sorted with different management. Worst field for docks last year, in autumn big mob of lambs on followed by dry ewes to bare right down, rested then repeated after couple of weeks, hardly a dock to be seen this year

Of course not, because you didn't let it seed. Spraying once at start of spring and once in Autumn would have done an excellent job too.
Problem is weed control is often an after thought on grassland.

 

[Cjm]

Put some cimarron with the hatchet. Cimarron is metsulfuron (ally in arable chemistry) and does an excellent job.

What he said.

 

[Big_D]

Of course not, because you didn't let it seed. Spraying once at start of spring and once in Autumn would have done an excellent job too.
Problem is weed control is often an after thought on grassland.

But docks are a perennial plant and therefore the same plants should be there this year as I didn't spray them. What I'm thinking now, is that chemical weed control on grassland shouldn't be required. Its expensive, probably harms soil, the animals eating it, the people eating the animals and the person applying it. Rotational grazing with the right stock at the right time along with timely cutting. Now where did I put those sandals?..........Ah yes they are in my beard.