Docking chute and iron

[Bury the Trash]

A bit off topic but when i was looking up theese lamb handlers came across this video. Dont know what the name of the main sheep yard is but it looks alot better of a design than the prattley/rappa to me.

looks a shambles to me one in a truck 7 people with a net and a daft no copp dog

The double width short race with a drafting gate on each side is that what you mean? needs one person on each side to work full on though. 2 man drafting

 

[eadiebro]

Ref nuts, burdizzo is legal without anaesthetic until three months. There is a new biodegradable clamp being trialled, name of which I forget, which is also legal to three months. I think rubber rings are legal with local anaesthetic after seven days old, would have to check that.

Ref nuts, burdizzo is legal without anaesthetic until three months. There is a new biodegradable clamp being trialled, name of which I forget, which is also legal to three months. I think rubber rings are legal with local anaesthetic after seven days old, would have to check that.

I may have replied to you elsewhere .. but ’pioneering’ farmers are still using our new lamb ClipFitter/ClampEasy right now in Scotland (mid June) because it’s legal (and fairly obviously better). I will definitely have to make a bigger clip for these bigger lambs; 8 week old blackies appear to be the current limit if not slightly beyond … and it’s more because of wooliness - we need woollessness!

I should know, but the ‘argument’ about legality, seems to depend on which UK country you are in, and isn’t always about pain, but mutilation too. It is in Scotland thankfully, but in England our clips aren’t yet approved (although under active consideration) because, after our instant castration and nerve blocking, we then go on to remove the ‘evidence’ ! (Farmers need that confirmation of a successful castration or so I thought). The English and Welsh call that mutilation do we are lumped in with the rules on rings unfortunately. The fact that we cause almost no pain compared to rings doesn’t outweigh the fact that we mutilate too.
Of course in the same set of rules you can still multilate little (7 days and less) lambs legally and cause them such pain ?

A long-winded answer as usual; sorry

 

[beardface]

I may have replied to you elsewhere .. but ’pioneering’ farmers are still using our new lamb ClipFitter/ClampEasy right now in Scotland (mid June) because it’s legal (and fairly obviously better). I will definitely have to make a bigger clip for these bigger lambs; 8 week old blackies appear to be the current limit if not slightly beyond … and it’s more because of wooliness - we need woollessness!

I should know, but the ‘argument’ about legality, seems to depend on which UK country you are in, and isn’t always about pain, but mutilation too. It is in Scotland thankfully, but in England our clips aren’t yet approved (although under active consideration) because, after our instant castration and nerve blocking, we then go on to remove the ‘evidence’ ! (Farmers need that confirmation of a successful castration or so I thought). The English and Welsh call that mutilation do we are lumped in with the rules on rings unfortunately. The fact that we cause almost no pain compared to rings doesn’t outweigh the fact that we mutilate too.
Of course in the same set of rules you can still multilate little (7 days and less) lambs legally and cause them such pain ?

A long-winded answer as usual; sorry

Had a look at website blog, how long will it take a clip to degrade? And have any lambs had issues with clips rubbing inside of legs?

 

[eadiebro]

Had a look at website blog, how long will it take a clip to degrade? And have any lambs had issues with clips rubbing inside of legs?

Uncertain degradation time - it depends on environment and how good the additives we need to use become as the plastics industry develops them. Current additive is BioSphere if you want to take a look on line. it claims to accelerate degradation x200 ! (not x2 not x20). If ‘plastic’ takes 600 years, for sake of argument, normally then with this additive it should take 3 … but again that has to depend on conditions and design. Our product has a strongcross-section through necessity.
However I’ve got high hopes for a water soluble plastic (PVOH) used in shotgun cartridge wadding. More expensive but disappears given enough rain but importantly remains rigid enough to do the job I need it to do.

No rubbing issues have been reported to me with any evidence by farmers or seen in our scientific trials and we have looked at a lot of ‘undercarriages’ to date ! Also you don’t have to place the Clip across the way (east/west) and 45 degrees is common. Thanks for asking ..