Docks Again

[Derrick Hughes]

Sprayed Last year , seem to be about 30% returned , is that likley to be the old ones or seedlings ?

So back to, "whats best to use"

 

[bobk]

What did you use last year ?

 

[choochter]

staff 500, spot spray
is it too soon to start this year, they've started growing

 

[Derrick Hughes]

What did you use last year ?

Some Dockstar and some had Starane

 

[deleted user 837354]

Which ones survived??

Staff 500 isn't that hot nor is straight MCPA.

Doxstar is pretty good if it is done right. Can stiffen using starane.

 

[deleted user 837354]

staff 500, spot spray
is it too soon to start this year, they've started growing

Its pretty warm but you don't want huge temperature drops at night.

 

[Skintagain]

Some Dockstar and some had Starane

Starane cleared our hay up, had to be sprayed again for second cut with doxstar. Back again this year.

I don’t think your ever without them once you have them

 

[Eiddwen]

Docks are clever in that they grow on rhizomes which typically have several growing points on them but some of these may remain dormant so you can successfully spray and kill off the growing leaves only for the 'dormant 'growing pints to burst into life and start again!

 

[choochter]

is doxstar that much more effective at killing docks than 2-4D

 

[deleted user 837354]

Starane cleared our hay up, had to be sprayed again for second cut with doxstar. Back again this year.

I don’t think your ever without them once you have them

Put the field into wheat then reseed behind it and all perennial weeds are gone for good.

You will get docks and other stuff down to a controllable level where they can be done by spot spraying- use thrust for this. But a serious infestation will take a couple of years to sort.

 

[Danllan]

Probably a few you missed, a freak survivor here and there and some seedlings. Glyphosate is best or, if you want to protect the grass around them, Grazon Pro. Spot spray and that should be that after a couple of seasons. I've three fields that were riddled with docks and, following a hit with glypho' in year one and Grazon in year two, now I see only maybe two or three per acre - and that's been the same for a few years now.

 

[Breckland Boy]

I have used squire (sulfonurea) and 2-4-D to good affect.
Safe on clover leys too

 

[Skintagain]

Put the field into wheat then reseed behind it and all perennial weeds are gone for good.

You will get docks and other stuff down to a controllable level where they can be done by spot spraying- use thrust for this. But a serious infestation will take a couple of years to sort.

We aren’t no arable farm just sheep. If I could grow wheat I wouldn’t be knobbing about with sheep.....

 

[Derrick Hughes]

dockstar on 80 acres will cost me a fortune, I know MCPA is a waste of time though

 

[bobk]

dockstar on 80 acres will cost me a fortune, I know MCPA is a waste of time though

2 litres of galgone will lessen them

 

[Skintagain]

dockstar on 80 acres will cost me a fortune, I know MCPA is a waste of time though

And that is the reason most people have a dock problem

 

[dinderleat]

Did some with pas-tor and Some with a 24d mcpa mix. But as Ollie said wheat will sort them out quicker.

 

[Agrivator]

Mecoprop is the most effective of the cheaper hormone products. But it might not be licenced for certain types of grassland - even on Sundays and Bank Holidays.

 

[deleted user 837354]

is doxstar that much more effective at killing docks than 2-4D

Hugely so. 2,4D and MCPA are not that good on docks but they go at weeds doxstar won't.

Dicamba is the better hormone on docks but needs to be growy and I'm not sure what products contain it now.

 

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