Dodgy bastewards

[TheTallGuy]

The simple answer is legalise and tax most drugs and stop fighting a war you can’t win. Education is more important.

The moment you apply taxation you open up markets for the organised criminals because there's a profit. Regulate the market & again there's an opening for the criminal element to undercut official channels, or to provide "an extra special high not available elsewhere".

I believe when they ranked substances in order of greatest social harm in the uk, alcohol ranked number 1 by a long way.

It depends on how you benchmark "social harm" & what agenda you are looking to promote as to how alcohol compares to other drugs.

Simply comparing the UK with other societies that have a more liberalised approach is disingenuous because other societies have differing levels of cultural ingrained lawfulness.

 

[Bill the Bass]

I do find it funny when middle class alcoholics act like drugs are the absolute scum of the earth

but the thing is middle class alcoholics - or indeed any class of alcoholic are not part of a wider ring of crime that involves incriminating youngsters (look up County Lines), quite often the same gangs that derive a living from drug trafficking are also trafficking people - young girls for sex, modern slavery etc etc. When you have kids of your own and this sh!t is on your doorstep, liberal wishy washy views tend to take a back seat.

I used to go out with a girl who had, shall we say issues with alcohol. I also have a cousin who is a heroin addict. I cant tell you categorically which one has a worse impact on society and the substance abusers family. You generally don't need a life of crime to feed a drink problem.

 

[ajd132]

but the thing is middle class alcoholics - or indeed any class of alcoholic are not part of a wider ring of crime that involves incriminating youngsters (look up County Lines), quite often the same gangs that derive a living from drug trafficking are also trafficking people - young girls for sex, modern slavery etc etc. When you have kids of your own and this sh!t is on your doorstep, liberal wishy washy views tend to take a back seat.

I used to go out with a girl who had, shall we say issues with alcohol. I also have a cousin who is a heroin addict. I cant tell you categorically which one has a worse impact on society and the substance abusers family. You generally don't need a life of crime to feed a drink problem.

agree, i was alluding to the fact drugs should be legalised in order to stop all the crime which goes with them. Alcahol is just as bad for you if not worse than many of these drugs that have such much stigma around them (obviously heroin is a different matter).

 

[Hfd Cattle]

You can buy blue flashing LED’s on tinternet but impersonating a police officer is an offence and I think we can guess which would be the easiest result for plod.

But in all fairness you wouldn't be impersonating a police officer....cos you will actually be DOING something .

 

[Tubbylew]

Or the urban. There would be more than one tractor pilot on the columbian marching powder

Frightening how prevelent it has become in this corner of the world.

 

[teslacoils]

I think the under 25s drink far little than we did at that age.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Had all the kids round week last Sun ...got stocked up on a selection of alcoholic beverage and they drank bugger all except for oldest son he put a few away......never mind all the more for me!

 

[2wheels]

Or a living doormat



Fire a bird scaring rocket at 45 degrees or more and they go vertical. Fire them just under 40 degrees and they hit the ground at roughly 150 metres. Bearing in mind that if you can hear a cock pheasant a mile away on a calm night, then a bird scaring rocket will have the 999 call centres computer lit up like Blackpool.
Under no circumstances should a responsible person do such a thing.

I can't bring myself to post the picture of the 'aftermath' from where an irresponsible person fired a rocket over some hare coursers, and such was the 'shock and awe' effect that one of them had to drop his pants and squat.

are there a lot of irresponsible persons in the borders?

 

[TheTallGuy]

agree, i was alluding to the fact drugs should be legalised in order to stop all the crime which goes with them. Alcahol is just as bad for you if not worse than many of these drugs that have such much stigma around them (obviously heroin is a different matter).

But decriminalisation of drugs won't stop the criminality that goes with it. For instance, the addicts will still need to fund their habits, vulnerable people will still be pressured by the gangs into doing their bidding. The drug gangs will still get their claws into folk. As for alcohol being worse than many drugs... having seen what some of these so called lesser drugs have done to family & friends.... I beg to differ!

 

[Cowmansam]

There definitely isn’t the same drinking culture in the younger generation but I reckon a lots down to cost for 20 quid they can be stoned as hell you take 20 quid the pub see what you get

 

[pycoed]

I remember a similar school drugs talk, about how we would all encounter them in the coming years, that was back in the mid 80’s.
I can honestly say that not only have I never taken drugs, I have never been offered them nor do I know anyone who openly has or where to get them had I ever wanted too.
Seems like I’ve lead a rather sheltered life although I would undoubtedly have classed as a proper p!$$ head back in the day.

Blimey you HAVE led a sheltered life! I'm 71 now & growing up in Merthyr, purple hearts & LSD were everywhere. Can't say I ever saw any in school, but our youngsters pub was stuffed with pills.
In uni at Swansea, I don't think I ever went to a party without being offered pot & all sorts of other harder stuff. I've never smoked & am armed with a keen sense of self preservation, so never partook. (If it doesn't come in a pint, it doesn't interest me).
Fast forward from the 60's to the 90's when my kids were in school & dealers were outside the comp every day...
No one who wants to take drugs has any problem getting them - it 's probably easier to get cocaine than Old Speckled Hen here in Bont, which isn't exactly downtown LA.
I've thought since I was 18 that they should be legalised (as they were until the 1920s or so) it would minimise the inadvertent deaths from super strength or contaminated doses & would decimate the knock-on crime rates across the country if the organised crime syndicates were undermined.
I can't understand why we didn't do this 50 years ago when drugs were starting to become an issue in society - does no one remember how Prohibition panned out in America? The parallels are remarkable.

 

[dave mountain]

I think the under 25s drink far little than we did at that age.

possibly, to me they seem to be either full p*** head or t total/rarely drink, not many youngsters in between. most young farmers fall firmly into the 1st group, around these parts anyway.

 

[Michael S]

Back to OPs problem I have found that 101ing the registration number reporting that you suspect drug driving (you could smell it when you walked past) seems to do the trick, certainly if the driver has been taking drugs. It doesn't illicit an instant police response but it cleared up an issue locally in a fortnight.

 

[Old Boar]

Drugs when I was young made you mellow, sit around seeing colours etc I believe. Now they seem to make people dangerous. Any major city has a gang of spice heads who are nasty and confrontational.

Re the layby. Put up a notice.

Thank you for using this Grindr site. CCTV has captured your images. Expect many invitations to other sites soon!

And a nice rainbow at the end to catch the eye....

 

[DeeGee]

There definitely isn’t the same drinking culture in the younger generation but I reckon a lots down to cost for 20 quid they can be stoned as hell you take 20 quid the pub see what you get

All depends which pub, but if it’s on Anglesey then probably not much more than Baldrick dressed up as French tart and carrying a carpet beater?

 

[TheTallGuy]

All depends which pub, but if it’s on Anglesey then probably not much more than Baldrick dressed up as French tart and carrying a carpet beater?

With the flying helmet & wet celery?

 

[DeeGee]

With the flying helmet & wet celery?

That’s the one! Absolute and utter weirdo of the first order!
Didn’t know that you’d met him as well?
I believe he has had extensive counselling and is now on stronger medication, but old habits die hard as they say, and as the nun said to the bishop.

 

[JeepJeep]

Back to OPs problem I have found that 101ing the registration number reporting that you suspect drug driving (you could smell it when you walked past) seems to do the trick, certainly if the driver has been taking drugs. It doesn't illicit an instant police response but it cleared up an issue locally in a fortnight.

YouTube the best of Dead mans shoes then re-enact it.

Don't forget the gas mask.

 

[Robt]

I agree, call 101. Best to call at 6 am when they are quiet. Give them as much intel as possible. We have an issue locally. Cars meet at a beach side car park to smoke weed. Some say why do I bother as it’s harmless. The reason I bother is they have to drive past my house and through our village to get home ( only road ) . I called 101 and gave as much info ( times , reg numbers etc) they came and busted a few for driving under influence . Simply ignoring it or moving them in just moves the problem

 

[CPF]

A nice little red dot from a distance on the windscreen do nicely