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robs1

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le bon paysan

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Says the woman who tried to turn over a democratic vote.
You're going to end up like walter p if you don't get over it
If you go into court and give untruths in evidence, you are charged with Perjury. A conviction based on lies can be overturned. @Danllan.
If lies are the bases of a decision ( to vote a certain way) does the truth not give a basis for reconsidering that decision?
 

robs1

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If you go into court and give untruths in evidence, you are charged with Perjury. A conviction based on lies can be overturned. @Danllan.
If lies are the bases of a decision ( to vote a certain way) does the truth not give a basis for reconsidering that decision?
Yep the lies about no EU army, no EU superstate, instant recession etc etc certainly did did influence a few gullible people
 

le bon paysan

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Yep the lies about no EU army, no EU superstate, instant recession etc etc certainly did did influence a few gullible people
Prat!
Much of this derives from Trump saying "America first"
Saying the EU should take its self seriously and stand on its own feet and not rely on NATO has , guess what, made the EU think about self defence as the US can't be relied on!
( Regard the top/ tea party)
 

robs1

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Prat!
Much of this derives from Trump saying "America first"
Saying the EU should take its self seriously and stand on its own feet and not rely on NATO has , guess what, made the EU think about self defence as the US can't be relied on!
( Regard the top/ tea party)
So trump was right 😀, but just ignore the lies remain told .
That's twice you've resorted to insults, the usual response from someone who has no answer
 

BrianV

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Prat!
Much of this derives from Trump saying "America first"
Saying the EU should take its self seriously and stand on its own feet and not rely on NATO has , guess what, made the EU think about self defence as the US can't be relied on!
( Regard the top/ tea party)
You may not like Trump but for a politician saying put your country first does make a refreshing change, does Macron not feel the same about France?
 
Prat!
Much of this derives from Trump saying "America first"
Saying the EU should take its self seriously and stand on its own feet and not rely on NATO has , guess what, made the EU think about self defence as the US can't be relied on!
( Regard the top/ tea party)

Given that the American people elected their President they could be forgiven for expecting their President to look after American interests first. Only Trump seemed to be more concerned about his own interests rather than those of the country.
 

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Given that the American people elected their President they could be forgiven for expecting their President to look after American interests first. Only Trump seemed to be more concerned about his own interests rather than those of the country.
Sums Trump up, quick swerve to supporting Ukraine against his mate.

 
Prat!
Much of this derives from Trump saying "America first"
Saying the EU should take its self seriously and stand on its own feet and not rely on NATO has , guess what, made the EU think about self defence as the US can't be relied on!
( Regard the top/ tea party)


Would you rely on Germany - which runs the EU - and cannot even stop using Russian Gas & Oil ?

Far too often the comments you make have little to no substance in reality.

Yes Germany is going to spend money on arms .. but WHO is going to be the target of WW3 ? Russia ? Which Germany attacked in WW2 ? Doesn't that give credance to some of Putin's propaganda ?

I've also been wondering as Putin telegraphed what he was doing - with War Games, army on the border, Nuclear missile tests and Satellite Killers - why was the EU & NATO so slow ? They had all the intelligence and history to know exactly what Putin's game plan was - the hypersonic missiles were built and tested some years ago.

Yet they just let it happen .. why couldn't NATO membership have been applied in a day ? Something really fishy about all this.

Of course if NATO membership WAS given. Would Germany be re-arming today ?
 

BrianV

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Would you rely on Germany - which runs the EU - and cannot even stop using Russian Gas & Oil ?

Far too often the comments you make have little to no substance in reality.

Yes Germany is going to spend money on arms .. but WHO is going to be the target of WW3 ? Russia ? Which Germany attacked in WW2 ? Doesn't that give credance to some of Putin's propaganda ?

I've also been wondering as Putin telegraphed what he was doing - with War Games, army on the border, Nuclear missile tests and Satellite Killers - why was the EU & NATO so slow ? They had all the intelligence and history to know exactly what Putin's game plan was - the hypersonic missiles were built and tested some years ago.

Yet they just let it happen .. why couldn't NATO membership have been applied in a day ? Something really fishy about all this.

Of course if NATO membership WAS given. Would Germany be re-arming today ?
You could ask why when the US were warning for so long in advance that Russia were prepared to invade Ukraine that the Ukraine leader continued to goad & dare Russia into invading, was he convinced the West would come to his rescue & if he was who was it that gave him that impression?
 

JP1

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You could ask why when the US were warning for so long in advance that Russia were prepared to invade Ukraine that the Ukraine leader continued to goad & dare Russia into invading, was he convinced the West would come to his rescue & if he was who was it that gave him that impression?
Goad or just represent his people and their desire to be independent sovereign land that could look East and West ?
 

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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