Dog Mess And Farm Animals?

bluebell

Member
The problems that dogs cause to farmlivestock, grows as the the dog population rises? the recent article in the farmers guardian, about a cattle farmer in the new forest, his cattle being affected by a parasite from dog mess that causes cows, heifers to not get pregnant, have sickly, deformed calves? Made me post this? That and the ever increasing cases of dog worrying sheep, but also cattle? It seems that last year, with so many people now working from home, more people about with dogs walking? just seen it this morning? many people have not one dog but 2 or 3? What have others seen, experienced, comments please?
 

7610 super q

Member
Arable Farmer
No experience other than when we kept free range hens, we had to test for salmonella every 8 weeks ( IIRC ), so wanted to keep doggers out of the fields.
And so began a decade long crusade of replacing signs after having then ripped off / spray painted over etc.
Had a visit sometime over Crimbo. Rectified this morning.......... :ROFLMAO:

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lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Went around a well known estate in Buckinghamshire
a few years ago and they had got rid of all their cows
due to the reasons mentioned above.
The parkland was open to the public along with their dogs
and it had become a major problem.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
The problems that dogs cause to farmlivestock, grows as the the dog population rises? the recent article in the farmers guardian, about a cattle farmer in the new forest, his cattle being affected by a parasite from dog mess that causes cows, heifers to not get pregnant, have sickly, deformed calves? Made me post this? That and the ever increasing cases of dog worrying sheep, but also cattle? It seems that last year, with so many people now working from home, more people about with dogs walking? just seen it this morning? many people have not one dog but 2 or 3? What have others seen, experienced, comments please?
Over the last decade my lane has been transformed from a lovely drive to literally a dogshit alley. No matter what time of day there are people walking with dogs, as often as not two or three each. It is not often now that I travel the mile up to the main road without passing at least one dog walker and very often three or more.

The growth in dog ownership has been phenomenal. These things cost a fortune to own, so just let one of them plead poverty to me and they will get a few one truths.
I’ve tackled three or four exercising their dogs in my fields over the years. One of them actually attacked me. He won’t be doing it again! Another actually came at me while I was in the car leading the cows out to the field, with his stick raised and ranting. He was new to the area and I asked him who the hell he thought he was and to fûch off back to where he came from pronto.
 

bluebell

Member
Do they ever mention this growing problem, on the many escape to the country, start a new life in the country, farming tv programmes? they paint a rosey picture of buying a small farm, keeping some sheep, pigs, cattle, etc? Never seen the costings or profit mentioned? work and worry of the costs of vets, the very areas these people move to are often TB blackspots?
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
No experience other than when we kept free range hens, we had to test for salmonella every 8 weeks ( IIRC ), so wanted to keep doggers out of the fields.
And so began a decade long crusade of replacing signs after having then ripped off / spray painted over etc.
Had a visit sometime over Crimbo. Rectified this morning.......... :ROFLMAO:

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you've spelt dogs wrong its dawgs
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Never had a dog so not my fault. People caught not picking up after their dog need their faces rubbing in it.
Do those of you with your own dogs follow them round when they are let out in the morning and pick up after them when they take a dump in the fields?
 

PaulNix

Member
Location
Cornwall
luckily I live in an area without lots of ramblists or dog walkers, however I think there is a job for the government to make all dog muck bags bio degradable, so when dog owners leave them about, at least they will rot down.
So the answer to people not taking their mess away isn't to make them, but to actually encourage them to leave it ?
 
Dogs are a total disgrace of course. Some of my land is ruined by the effing things. On the upside less stray dogs now, but many many more air headed, phone glued to ear, gossiping idiots. Who have even filmed me, when I explain that they are on private land & can;t treat it like a park.

But once neospora is on a farm, I suspect the farm dog will be the main culprit it is eating cleaning that is the problem
 

egbert

Member
Dogs are a total disgrace of course. Some of my land is ruined by the effing things. On the upside less stray dogs now, but many many more air headed, phone glued to ear, gossiping idiots. Who have even filmed me, when I explain that they are on private land & can;t treat it like a park.

But once neospora is on a farm, I suspect the farm dog will be the main culprit it is eating cleaning that is the problem
It's far more likely to be farm dogs and/or foxes.
(how many town dogs get to chew on a bit of afterbirth.....while how do you stop farm dogs/foxes?)
 
It's far more likely to be farm dogs and/or foxes.
(how many town dogs get to chew on a bit of afterbirth.....while how do you stop farm dogs/foxes?)
Yes but if a walkers dog has eaten afterbirth it can of course spread it to more farms. Where the farm dog will likely intesify the problem.

Sorry to bring this subject up but sheep wintering on dairy ground, the shepherds dog should be a prime suspect.
 

egbert

Member
Yes but if a walkers dog has eaten afterbirth it can of course spread it to more farms. Where the farm dog will likely intesify the problem.

Sorry to bring this subject up but sheep wintering on dairy ground, the shepherds dog should be a prime suspect.
from my own bitter experience....
without our knowledge it was spreading very slowly through the herd, down through damlines, but seems to have started to escalate in the last couple of years.
(Of the 15% found to be infected when we uncovered it, something over half had an infected mother)
The canine route clearly wasn't the end of the world.......earlier testing would've knocked it right back.
(we're lifting with foxes, walkers dogs, as well as our own.)

The current plan is to cull out everything that 2-3 years worth of tests picks up (the test can't be fully relied on...we're sure we've several false negatives)
Then test all of the replacements, plus anything that raises suspicion.
Any replacement that fails, be looking at her dam.

It's a hideous business, but like anything in life...you deal with what's in front of you.

Did I see a vet saying the New Forest fella was going to have to breed his infected cows to a terminal sire?
Oh great....so they're cuffing out infected afterbirth every year, as well as a big drop in production.
No, you cull asap. The earlier you take the medicine, the less of it you have to take.


It should be notifiable, and APHA should pick up test costs.
History has shown us scrimping over such things backfires.
 

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