Dog Signs

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Never Forgotten
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Lancashire
This is exactly what I said , I had the phone with me and I should have done a quick recording of it in action to show how bad it was!!!
Next time I definitely will.
I tried that with the first attack before Xmas, tried to video it on the sheep but hit camera button instead, only got a photo, the other two attacks theyed left the sheep, and carried on walking, other walks flagged me down to tell me and what sort of dog it was. Its just beyond me how people can just carry on as though nothing as happened and no care for the sheep🤬.
The truth is I cant see it getting any better. Covid as made it what it is and I dont think things will change.
 

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Will2May

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Some of the best signs I've seen are on the black mountains hay bluff car park. Picture of a a cute dog saying "please don't get me killed, keep me on my lead near livestock". Or something along these lines and a brief explanation of the law about dogs on leads. As most pet owners think of their dogs as people or even their babies it's better that the dog asks them rather than an angry farmer who doesn't understand how wonderful and lovely rover is.

Or just go shock tactics

 

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Never Forgotten
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Lancashire
Some of the best signs I've seen are on the black mountains hay bluff car park. Picture of a a cute dog saying "please don't get me killed, keep me on my lead near livestock". Or something along these lines and a brief explanation of the law about dogs on leads. As most pet owners think of their dogs as people or even their babies it's better that the dog asks them rather than an angry farmer who doesn't understand how wonderful and lovely rover is.

Or just go shock tactics

Thanks,
Someone as sent me that, looks like it might do, time will tell (y)
 
Some of the best signs I've seen are on the black mountains hay bluff car park. Picture of a a cute dog saying "please don't get me killed, keep me on my lead near livestock". Or something along these lines and a brief explanation of the law about dogs on leads. As most pet owners think of their dogs as people or even their babies it's better that the dog asks them rather than an angry farmer who doesn't understand how wonderful and lovely rover is.

Or just go shock tactics


Bingo.

Put these high up on trees or posts so they can't be torn down easily.
 

HarryB97

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Mixed Farmer
Thanks,
Someone as sent me that, looks like it might do, time will tell (y)
Something polite like above is always the best option. Always have your phone recording when you confront people as they will twist your words, even if you just have it on your lap not directly pointing at them.
I had to shoot a Husky on Wednesday that was attacking my ewes, ( it was scary to see how vicious it was, even after the first shot it still turned to attack the ewe again)
I'm now public enemy No1 in the Local area for shooting the wee pet that would hurt a fly, and it didn't Kill any sheep, Only because i got there soon enough.
give me a shout if you need signs made and i'll sort them for you.
That is the best way to teach every one locally a lesson as they no you are not bluffing. Hopefully you will not need to do it again!
 

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Never Forgotten
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Lancashire
education education education, they wont listen to us, and no-one else to tell them, what it does need are very heavy fines, and publication of them, the thought of a £5,000 +fine, should concentrate their minds, if the courts were made to issue them.
The one worried before Xmas is going to court as she says her dog didn't do it, it fid it on barded wire even though she was there and I have photos, all full of apologies and yes ill pay, then soon as they get home its a different story, even though police have her statement admitting and saying she'll pay vets bill and disposal and loss of ewe plus lambs, now she can only afford 10 quid a month ffs, 4+years to pay it off. 2 or 3 months in I know whats going to happen.
Its alright giving large fines but getting its another story.
Flogging a dead horse springs to mind..
 

SteveHants

Member
Livestock Farmer
Several years ago either nfu or nsa had signs that had picture of sheep laid ripped open and in bits from dog attack. Was very thought provoking. Some may take offence at it but when you see how quickly a dog or even worse 2 feral dogs slaughter a group of ewes. Foot paths used to be for commuting and essential, not just for every day pleasure.
I had some of those, but I think they came from the Farmer's Guardian.
I laminated them and cable tied them to gates and yet people still managed to cut them down....
 

Lincs Lass

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Location
north lincs
Farmers Sign - Failure to keep dogs on lead may result in them being shot.

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Never Forgotten
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Lancashire
The one worried before Xmas is going to court as she says her dog didn't do it, it fid it on barded wire even though she was there and I have photos, all full of apologies and yes ill pay, then soon as they get home its a different story, even though police have her statement admitting and saying she'll pay vets bill and disposal and loss of ewe plus lambs, now she can only afford 10 quid a month ffs, 4+years to pay it off. 2 or 3 months in I know whats going to happen.
Its alright giving large fines but getting its another story.
Flogging a dead horse springs to mind..
As @Sandpit Farm said, ill stick mi head above the para pit.
This was supposedly done on barded wire, no barded anywhere near, plain on wall top
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This was last week and the owner of the dog fecked off and left it 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬
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Any more like this and I think I might get locked up:facepalm:🤬
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
we know the police wont do much, if it goes to court, low fines, and time to pay= nothing. very often these acts by pets are covered under ordinary house insurance. I am not a lawyer, but i do know British civil law, can often be used in cases like this, i understand shop's and s/mkts are increasingly using civil to target shoplifters, who under 'normal' law get told not to do it again. I have come across it once, being used to evict travellers, from a field, when the police refused to act, when informed that we intended to forcibly evict them, the police threw a wobbly, threaten us with the 'riot act', called for riot police, and near begged us not to do it. When asked if we were within our 'rights' to do this, the answer was a very reluctant yes, and 40+angry farmers duly evicted them. But this was done under Civil law, which is very a different system, and can override 'normal'. What it needs, is someone with a legal background, to research this, and see if it can be applied to dog worrying, if it can, lets use it. Was also told the niceties, such as time to pay etc, do not apply, it's quite vicious, might even be more vicious than the dog !
 

Fendt516profi

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
Im not the best at spellllinggg or punkuation but who gives a 💩 its readable :p
This is where I was quoting back to
I've only once shot a dog, owner called the police, police told them to expect getting a vets bill to pay, all went quiet after that, but that was the 60s when the police could handle situations like that without having to report back to a superior.
Few shot dog owners and things might get better
 

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Never Forgotten
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Location
Lancashire
Get the middle photo professionally blown up and printed onto plastic with a message that you will shoot dogs caught worrying stock.
Might try that(y).
Had to get an independent valuation on the ewe as courts wouldn't except mine, valuer said id under estimated so gonna cost her another 150 guid more now. Weather i get it is another story🙄
 

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