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[Grassman]

i know of some lasses locally 'rescuing' dogs from romania...for fecksake.
(I reckon they get seen coming..... 'here come zose stupid Engleesh girls...quick, go and grab some more strays')

And then we lost a cheviot ewe a coupla weeks ago to a dog rescued from Portugal.
I've no idea whats going on...a world gone barking!

A month ago, We had 4 dogs. The old one died (13 years) no problem. Then the 2 youngest were stolen & the 1 left is very subdued.
On the day they were stolen, a bitch & her litter were taken & 2 other dogs from the village.
A van was stopped near Cheltenham on its way to Durham with in 40 stolen dogs (not ours).

As usual the travellers and East Europeans are in on the act stealing dogs without any morals. Chips get crushed with pliers or cut out then the dogs sold in a different area.
I would be very cautious buying any dog now without actually seeing it at its home.
Also can the dogs being sold as strays from another country be verified? I doubt it very much. Sure some people will be genuine but others will just be stealing them.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Disagree. I found a dog not so long ago, scanned with my own tag scanner and then called my vet with the number. They checked it through the system, contacted the owner and it was reunited.

So long as dog owners keep the registration up to date, it works well.

Except when 1 of ours went missing a few weeks ago, it was picked up and taken into a small animal vets in town, who scanned it and said to the person who brought it in "oh, we don't use that chip company, can't tell you who it's registered to".
Didn't think it was supposed to work like that?
FB and local WhatsApp group got us reunited.

 

[Highland Mule]

Small animal vets in town should be re-educated. Call in next time you’re passing and make sure they get the help they need.

If the dog wasn’t sorted by them, surely the local dog warden/ rescue centre would do the job? That’s what would happen around here.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Small animal vets in town should be re-educated. Call in next time you’re passing and make sure they get the help they need.

If the dog wasn’t sorted by them, surely the local dog warden/ rescue centre would do the job? That’s what would happen around here.

It was covid and the weekend. Vet member of staff was about to clock off for the day.
No doubt it would have been sorted eventually, but social media had us reunited in hours not days.

 

[neilo]

Except when 1 of ours went missing a few weeks ago, it was picked up and taken into a small animal vets in town, who scanned it and said to the person who brought it in "oh, we don't use that chip company, can't tell you who it's registered to".
Didn't think it was supposed to work like that?
FB and local WhatsApp group got us reunited.

It does seem ridiculous that there isn’t a national database, or at least common access to the various company’s databases, as every dog in the country legally has to be chipped now.

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

It does seem ridiculous that there isn’t a national database, or at least common access to the various company’s databases, as every dog in the country legally has to be chipped now.

There are several chip companies and they each have their own database. A vet will use one chip company.

Many chips are unregistered, but the chip number will tell you which company made the chip.

The chips I've bought and implanted are traceable back to me, even if the chip is never registered to an owner, because the manufacturer/distributor records which chips are bought by which implanter.

I have a scanner with "ScannerAngel" software, which flashes up if the dog I've just scanned has been reported missing or stolen. Every vet should be scanning every dog and using this software, but it's not good for business.

 

[Chasingmytail]

A member of the family bought a cockapoo pup - £2500. (friend prev bought one for £600) No receipt no veterinary health assessment on the parents. Sod that! Also gets me that they take the cash obv not putting it through as an income - tidy income that! Only got to trim the thing every 6 weeks (£40) . Dont get it.

 

[SteveHants]

I’d object to that. We have 6 dogs here, 3 working collies and 3 useless twits in the house. None have an annual vet check up, but do go to see them if there is any suspected problem. I do annual vaccinatIons myself though.

I really don’t see why dogs should go to a vet check up on any schedule, any more than most normal people would see a doctor unless there was a problem. As for £100 a year ‘fee’, how would that make any difference to anything? Would it be policed in the back end of Welshpool etc amongst the dog fighting community?
No, as usual, the law abiding folk would be asked to pay yet another unnecessary tax that costs as much to collect as it brings in.

How do you do that? I've never had a vet willing to sell me them - I'd be very interested in that, I give my dogs all their other injections myself....

 

[neilo]

How do you do that? I've never had a vet willing to sell me them - I'd be very interested in that, I give my dogs all their other injections myself....

I've always done it. It used to be that I just wouldn't get a postal reminder, but last time I had to sign a disclaimer before having it. It's still not cheap, but they likely wouldn't get done if they all had to visit a vet, with the associated 'small animal' charge, as is the case with most farm dogs I suspect.

 

[Dry Rot]

I've always done it. It used to be that I just wouldn't get a postal reminder, but last time I had to sign a disclaimer before having it. It's still not cheap, but they likely wouldn't get done if they all had to visit a vet, with the associated 'small animal' charge, as is the case with most farm dogs I suspect.

How do you manage that? The vets won't sell the vaccine over the counter here unless they get to physically examine the dog to "ensure it is fit and healthy" which of course is how they make their money. I must have vaccinated hundreds of dogs without a problem before they brought in that rule. As my dogs don't go off the farm, let alone to shows, they just don't get vaccinated.

Apart from canine distemper in a pack of hounds in 1958 (we lost one hound), I've only lost one dog with one of the deadly canine diseases (Leptospirosis). The "boosters" are known to be a con. An assistant vet working out her noticed told me if her employers needed to boost their income, they just started another rumour about an epidemic on a local housing estate!

 

[oakleaf]

How do you manage that? The vets won't sell the vaccine over the counter here unless they get to physically examine the dog to "ensure it is fit and healthy" which of course is how they make their money. I must have vaccinated hundreds of dogs without a problem before they brought in that rule. As my dogs don't go off the farm, let alone to shows, they just don't get vaccinated.

Apart from canine distemper in a pack of hounds in 1958 (we lost one hound), I've only lost one dog with one of the deadly canine diseases (Leptospirosis). The "boosters" are known to be a con. An assistant vet working out her noticed told me if her employers needed to boost their income, they just started another rumour about an epidemic on a local housing estate!

The human race and its sad pusuit of money sickens and depresses me every day.

The canine race and its exuberant demeanour counterbalances this.

 

[MRT]

It would take a clever person to feel for it, its smaller than a grain of rice and can migrate around a dogs body as iys not fixed in place, you'd be a long time feeling for it. All the thief needs is a scanner ( not that expensive ) to locate it, then the practice is now to cut them out and re chip them.

Can be hard to find even with a scanner! Thin skinned dogs like whippets its easy enough to locate by feel but fatter heavy coated dogs I think you'd be very lucky to find it indeed

Apart from canine distemper in a pack of hounds in 1958 (we lost one hound), I've only lost one dog with one of the deadly canine diseases (Leptospirosis). The "boosters" are known to be a con. An assistant vet working out her noticed told me if her employers needed to boost their income, they just started another rumour about an epidemic on a local housing estate!

I agree that we over vaccinate in general. I tend to do up to first booster then play it by ear. I have seen a small puppy farm wiped out by parvovirus however so its not all a con. On that subject amazing how things change! Villains to heros, nobody has cared where their new pup comes from, I hope the smaller/poorer breeders don't expand as a result (but they probably will)

 

[Ramrod]

The "boosters" are known to be a con
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Not a fan of boosters, had some bad reactions in last two dogs.

When the booster was due for my present dog, earlier this year, I decided against it.

The insurance company said either booster or titre test, or cancel insurance.

Did the titre test (more expensive) it showed he had 6 times the required antibodies to cover all but Leptospirosis.

He had lepto 2 injection (I avoid lepto 4), if the the normal booster route had been chosen it would have added unneeded, harmful and expensive chemicals.

 

[JP1]

A member of the family bought a cockapoo pup - £2500. (friend prev bought one for £600) No receipt no veterinary health assessment on the parents. Sod that! Also gets me that they take the cash obv not putting it through as an income - tidy income that! Only got to trim the thing every 6 weeks (£40) . Dont get it.

Makes a mockery of those that do it properly studying and visiting stud dogs, scanning hips, eyes, elbows, jaws etc. They soon add up to at least one pup

 

[Adeptandy]

Doing it properly has considerable expense, it’s easy to be judged in the headline sales figure, but like all animal husbandry, it’s not all profit.

 

[organicguy]

Rather get a pup so we know what it's upbringing is like. Seems like some of the proffesional breeders have stopped just now, tried to get one from dogs Trust and because the dog wouldn't be with me or my wife every second of the day we couldn't have one. Never mind that they would be with their friend in a spacious well ventilated kennel watching over the farm yard for a few hours at a time, thats when they aren't out and about in the truck or fields with me. I want to just leave it a bit but my wife thinks the other dog has lost his 'sparkle' despite the fact that he is getting plenty of walks and he is with her or me during waking hours as she is working from home. Do dogs grieve?

Friends dog we bred has just died and been cremated, they have had his nephew for a year now so the two were quite attached. The dead dogs ashes are on the mantle piece in a box. The young dog goes straight to the ashes whenever he comes in the house!

WTF

 

[Micky smith]

I’m looking for a spaniel bitch pup been asked for anywhere from £1500 to £3500 which I ain’t paying I’ve never paid more than £700 for a dog with better blood lines than the ones on offer it sickens me

 

[MRT]

I’m looking for a spaniel bitch pup been asked for anywhere from £1500 to £3500 which I ain’t paying I’ve never paid more than £700 for a dog with better blood lines than the ones on offer it sickens me

I suppose everything except farm produce goes up in value, I don't mind paying for what I want, have a pup booked for £1500 atm which is a lot but the last one from the same home is worth a fortune to me

 

[Micky smith]

All mine are worth a fortune to me I work 5 of them just lost my old one to cancer so looking for new blood but £1500 for a sprocker is pushing it a bit for what really is a mongrel

 

[Lincs Lass]

One of my customers has always had tibeten terriers ,lovely little dogs ,,she lost her last two to old age ,,she went to a registered breeder as they had a litter but when she got there, the breeder had increased the prices but told her you have her ,the breading queen ,I've finished with her as she's no more use ,,over breading had nearly killed the poor thing ,,the dog was just a production line .