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[Forever Fendt]

Present Mrs C is a registered Lab breeder. Only one litter every other year from a bitch, but we have regular inquiries for pups. Not having a good year so far, best bitch had just one puppy and that was by Cesarean..☹. There is detailed questioning of prospective dog owners, regarding how they will look after the dog, e.g. not being left alone all day, and registering with a vet practice etc. So we do 'politely' have to turn folks away. Sadly puppy farms exist simply because of the demand from people who don't know any better.

I’d object to that. We have 6 dogs here, 3 working collies and 3 useless twits in the house. None have an annual vet check up, but do go to see them if there is any suspected problem. I do annual vaccinatIons myself though.

I really don’t see why dogs should go to a vet check up on any schedule, any more than most normal people would see a doctor unless there was a problem. As for £100 a year ‘fee’, how would that make any difference to anything? Would it be policed in the back end of Welshpool etc amongst the dog fighting community?
No, as usual, the law abiding folk would be asked to pay yet another unnecessary tax that costs as much to collect as it brings in.

agree with all this completely the more rules you apply the more lucrative it becomes for those be
Under the radar

 

[Netherfield]

We have a Wire Haired Fox terrier, on a regular walk around the local Reservoir another walker asked about her, "I'd love one like her", anyway after pointing her in the right direction she still failed to find one.

Fast forward to yesterday and she's got herself a Patterdale pup, from a farmers wife in Barnsley, not intended breeding and not out for massive profit, £600.

She went on to tell us her friend had a bought a pup off the internet, a Cockerpoo, has been constantly sickly, almost died according to vet, big vet bills so far, although now seems to be coming through at last. Seller in question seems to have been trading under an assumed name because he's been barred from the selling site under his own name, and had been investigated by trading standards previously, and now can't be contacted. They'd arranged a half way meeting point to collect the dog has he claimed to be some long distance away. Member of the travelling community apparently.

Of course we all know buying an animal unseen is fraught with danger don't we.

 

[Forever Fendt]

You don't have to scan for a microchip, thieves just feel for it and crush it with pliers, so I've heard.

Impossible I would say have you seen the size of them

 

[Forever Fendt]

One of the neighbours has sold 10 lab pups for £1000 each and had a mate called in to see us yesterday had two beagle type dogs pupped sold 2 litters 16k. He reckons everyone has been wanting a dog but the jobs cooled off a touch now

I wonder how many if those are going on the tax return and if they are vat registered they will be liable for the vat

 

[Nearly]

Does anyone know a good dog tattooist?
Got to be a better bet than a chip?
For id purposes not some kind of (Lady and the) Tramp Stamp.

 

[Adeptandy]

1 of ours has it’s ear tattoo’d, I don’t know why, but I really don’t like it

 

[Netherfield]

Does anyone know a good dog tattooist?
Got to be a better bet than a chip?
For id purposes not some kind of (Lady and the) Tramp Stamp.

Herd Number or CPH.?

I seem to think some of the local fox hounds were marked somewhow.

 

[pycoed]

We have a Wire Haired Fox terrier, on a regular walk around the local Reservoir another walker asked about her, "I'd love one like her", anyway after pointing her in the right direction she still failed to find one.

Fast forward to yesterday and she's got herself a Patterdale pup, from a farmers wife in Barnsley, not intended breeding and not out for massive profit, £600.

She went on to tell us her friend had a bought a pup off the internet, a Cockerpoo, has been constantly sickly, almost died according to vet, big vet bills so far, although now seems to be coming through at last. Seller in question seems to have been trading under an assumed name because he's been barred from the selling site under his own name, and had been investigated by trading standards previously, and now can't be contacted. They'd arranged a half way meeting point to collect the dog has he claimed to be some long distance away. Member of the travelling community apparently.

Of course we all know buying an animal unseen is fraught with danger don't we.

Oh dear! I'd keep away from her in future, she's going to chuck you in the reservoir before the year's out

 

[Dry Rot]

1 of ours has it’s ear tattoo’d, I don’t know why, but I really don’t like it

I don't like it either, but used to do hounds about 50 years ago! Normal forcep type tattooing pliars with removable letters are used and the numbers are either put in an ear or the bare part of the belly. Ouch! Same type of tattoing is done for some pedigree sheep/rare breeds societies. The numbers can fade with time..

 

[Fossil]

I've been saying this for years. £100 per dog per year consequent to getting signed off at an annual vet check-up. Vet can also check the microchip details and third-party insurance is up-to-date.

Why the hell should vets be given a money printing machine? I haven’t been to the doctors for a decade, why should I take a dog to the vet if it isn’t I’ll?

 

[Chopsy Varmint]

Why the hell should vets be given a money printing machine? I haven’t been to the doctors for a decade, why should I take a dog to the vet if it isn’t I’ll?

You're missing my point which was not about taking sick animals for treatment but to have an annual licence for each dog to try to curb irresponsible dog breeding and ownership and improve welfare. I suggested vets to administer the licence scheme because the target demographic would most likely find the visiting the vet more acceptable than going to the dog warden or police.

I'd anticipate the licence money raised to go into promoting the scheme and the police and local authorities which run dog pounds, not into the vets' pockets.

 

[Dry Rot]

You're missing my point which was not about taking sick animals for treatment but to have an annual licence for each dog to try to curb irresponsible dog breeding and ownership and improve welfare. I suggested vets to administer the licence scheme because the target demographic would most likely find the visiting the vet more acceptable than going to the dog warden or police.

I'd anticipate the licence money raised to go into promoting the scheme and the police and local authorities which run dog pounds, not into the vets' pockets.

Vets would no doubt have the same reply the agro-chamical suppliers give regarding non-licenced farmers buying professional chamicals? "We are not the police". Will you be one of those volunteering to check micro chips? If my dog decides to eat the vet (quite possible!), I'd love to help but I might just be too busy.

 

[Swarfmonkey]

Let’s make it more expensive for granny to own her Sealyham whilst Wayne and his Rotty/Staff X on the local council estate, who just doesn’t give a toss about the law, carries on as before

 

[Chopsy Varmint]

Vets would no doubt have the same reply the agro-chamical suppliers give regarding non-licenced farmers buying professional chamicals? "We are not the police". Will you be one of those volunteering to check micro chips? If my dog decides to eat the vet (quite possible!), I'd love to help but I might just be too busy.

So let the police do it. Or even better, the local authority dog warden. There will be enough people looking for work in the next few months and it could create additional jobs.

I already volunteer for a breed-specific rescue charity that rehomes nationally, home-checking potential adopters and doing transport runs to move dogs from council pounds to kennels, foster homes, and to their 'forever' adopted homes. It's dispiriting to see dogs treated as throwaway material items, knowing that there's an endless stream of them needing help. That's why I'm in favour of dog licences being brought back, with verified up-to-date traceable details of ownership and at a reasonable annual cost that may make some people think twice and not impulse-buy an animal as will have happened during lockdown. 'My' rescue is bracing itself for an influx of dogs once the furlough scheme ends, redundancies escalate, and the weather becomes less enjoyable for walking every day.

Anyway, yes to answer your question, if they needed volunteers to stand in the vets to check chips I could commit a few hours a week (if you want something done, ask a busy person!). However I'd imagine most surgeries wouldn't be keen to have a rota of volunteers in and out for chip-checking as there'd be insurance and administrative implications for the practice.

However, as far as this thread goes, I give up.

 

[Dry Rot]

Dogs are currently fashion acessories and fashions change, so, yes, I think the 'rescues' will be getting many more applicants especially when those fluffy little puppies grow into scruffy untrained little monsters with nasty unhygenic habits and putting to sleep is not PC. Think about pedigree sheep. They are usually boom and bust, unless genuinely commercially viable.

 

[Fossil]

You're missing my point which was not about taking sick animals for treatment but to have an annual licence for each dog to try to curb irresponsible dog breeding and ownership and improve welfare. I suggested vets to administer the licence scheme because the target demographic would most likely find the visiting the vet more acceptable than going to the dog warden or police.

I'd anticipate the licence money raised to go into promoting the scheme and the police and local authorities which run dog pounds, not into the vets' pockets.

What makes you think those with money to burn on extra costs are more responsible than those with less?

 

[Henarar]

both the dogs we have here were 150 quid donation rescue dogs and they are both great dogs, the JRT I had before was 80 quid, I wouldn't give thousands for a dog

 

[Netherfield]

Police don't want to be involved with any of this, can't keep up with things as it is. Our vets have always checked chips working whenever the dog has been seen, likely try to sell another if they discovered it wasn't present.

 

[JP1]

Spotted this on FB earlier:



Benboee Dog Walking & Pet Services

· 19 hrs ·



This “price list” is from “Raffles” ..... one of the countries biggest and busiest puppy farms.

Makes my heart hurt

Do your research people and do not fund this horrifically cruel business.
After doing a little digging, I came across some info that says they had 150 litters in a 12 month period

 

[TripleSix]

Does anyone know a good dog tattooist?
Got to be a better bet than a chip?
For id purposes not some kind of (Lady and the) Tramp Stamp.

Racing greyhounds have ear tattoos.
There is a chap near leeming bar breeds racers who might know about tats if you're being serious.