Don't blame meat for the climate crisis, say European livestock farmers

[Farmer Roy]

just one for all those who seem to hate the Guardian . . .

Don't blame meat for the climate crisis, say European livestock farmers

An EU without farmed animals would see a loss of biodiversity and spark a rural exodus, new campaign group claims

www.theguardian.com

 

[delilah]

just one for all those who seem to hate the Guardian . . .

Don't blame meat for the climate crisis, say European livestock farmers

An EU without farmed animals would see a loss of biodiversity and spark a rural exodus, new campaign group claims

www.theguardian.com

Which begs the obvious questions: Have the UK's farming representative bodies given their backing to this European Livestock Voice ? Will the UK be getting these billboards and social media campaign #meatthefacts promoting the livestock industry ?

 

[delilah]

And there, ladies and gentlemen, you have it in a nutshell:

Put a post up slagging off a vegan TV advert and it gets 4,000 views, 119 comments and counting.
And the NFU think that the best response on behalf of their members is to say that the advert is bad for the mental health of farmers - people who, in the eyes of the public, have little to worry about other than what to spend the subsidy money on.

Put a post up showing how the livestock industry can promote itself in a positive manner, and it gets 202 views and 1 reply.

And you wonder why you're going down the pan ?

 

[Farmer Roy]

And there, ladies and gentlemen, you have it in a nutshell:

Put a post up slagging off a vegan TV advert and it gets 4,000 views, 119 comments and counting.
And the NFU think that the best response on behalf of their members is to say that the advert is bad for the mental health of farmers - people who, in the eyes of the public, have little to worry about other than what to spend the subsidy money on.

Put a post up showing how the livestock industry can promote itself in a positive manner, and it gets 202 views and 1 reply.

And you wonder why you're going down the pan ?

my thoughts exactly . . .

I deliberately posted this to see what sort of reaction it would get

 

[Bury the Trash]

Im surprised you havent got an anti European reaction thus far.

 

[Farmer Roy]

I was waiting for it . . .

or an anti Guardian one . . .

 

[Henarar]

hardly saying anything that we don't already know is it, apart from not going far enough

 

[Farmer Roy]

hardly saying anything that we don't already know is it, apart from not going far enough

yes, but the message isn't for farmers

it is in the Guardian ( who most here claim is anti farmer ), the target audience is the general public, most probably left leaning & environmentally aware . . .

those are the people the message needs to get to

 

[Farmer Roy]

the idea is to make people think, to be positive, to get them on side

not to shout at them or abuse their choices . . .

 

[Jackov Altraids]

I still feel The Guardian have tried to unfairly undermine the message but good on them for at least showing 'our' side. Especially for printing;
A spokesperson for the European Livestock Voice said:

“It is well known that a section of the European population over consume animal products, but there is no evidence to suggest that reducing production will lead to any decrease in consumption. The consequences of a drastic reduction on consumption of animal products by replacing them with ‘meat substitutes’ or other activities could well be worse than the benefits of meat consumption, without leading to a significant environmental or health improvement.”

The article which was part funded by The Open Philanthropy Project which funds many animal welfare groups, shoe horns in;
"Europeans eat more than twice as much meat as experts recommend. A report last year called for a 40–50% reduction in the size of Europe’s meat and livestock sector to reduce its environmental footprint.

Research published in Nature journal concluded that beef consumption in western countries needs to fall by 90% in order to avoid dangerous climate change. The livestock sector is believed to be responsible for a minimum of 14.5% of global carbon emissions."

This is still very misleading.

 

[Henarar]

yes, but the message isn't for farmers

it is in the Guardian ( who most here claim is anti farmer ), the target audience is the general public, most probably left leaning & environmentally aware . . .

those are the people the message needs to get to

I wouldn't know what way the guardian leans, don't read any papers
fully behind getting the message out though

 

[delilah]

Have just emailed the British Meat Processors Association (who are listed as members of this European livestock Voice) and the AHDB to ask if we will be seeing this campaign here, would encourage others to do the same.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Have just emailed the British Meat Processors Association (who are listed as members of this European livestock Voice) and the AHDB to ask if we will be seeing this campaign here, would encourage others to do the same.

good work please post your response from them

 

[delilah]

good work please post your response from them

don't hold your breath.



(which is, of course, an age old tactic to ensure they do now feel obliged to reply )

 

[Yale]

To be fair @Farmer Roy ,most clued up farmers know grazed livestock are good for the environment.

I think there is a bit of fatigue setting into the livestock industry regarding story after story on this subject.

 

[delilah]

To be fair @Farmer Roy ,most clued up farmers know grazed livestock are good for the environment.

I think there is a bit of fatigue setting into the livestock industry regarding story after story on this subject.

this isn't 'farmers talking to farmers', it's a billboard and social media campaign for the general public

 

[Yale]

this isn't 'farmers talking to farmers', it's a billboard and social media campaign for the general public

Yes,I was just referencing the low footfall on this thread.

Even I had only just spotted it.

 

[wanton dwarf]

Im surprised you havent got an anti European reaction thus far.

What a dumb thing to say.

If you said anti EU reaction you would be correct as the EU endorces Climate Change propaganda.

 

[primmiemoo]

Yes,I was just referencing the low footfall on this thread.

Even I had only just spotted it.

P'raps folk are busy countering the mis— and dis— information now? Muggins here contacted a chat show this morning where a panelist launched into anti-meat promoted bad science mantras, even though saying she wasn't against eating meat.

 

[wanton dwarf]

just one for all those who seem to hate the Guardian . . .

Don't blame meat for the climate crisis, say European livestock farmers

An EU without farmed animals would see a loss of biodiversity and spark a rural exodus, new campaign group claims

www.theguardian.com

What do you mean "Seem to hate" ?

The Guardian publishes fake news and fake science .. why would anyone take this comic seriously ?

IMHO The Guardian is little more than a extremist outlet attempting to destroy lots of peoples lives by using propaganda.

And yes it can very easily be justified by the fact George Monbiot publishes his articles based on Science White Papers which he failed to verify were correct - at his own admission.