Double grain trailers in Germany

[Sheep]

@German

 

[Xerion]

I am loving this thread
Never read so much bullsh#t out side of the politics and Brexit forum
So gents keep the theories comming it all makes entertaining reading
Mit einen herzlichen Glück auf
Max

 

[Bloders]

I am loving this thread
Never read so much bullsh#t out side of the politics and Brexit forum
So gents keep the theories comming it all makes entertaining reading
Mit einen herzlichen Glück auf
Max

whats the reason then?

 

[Agriimark]

Here it goes.

Is that the problem tractor that the 'how long should a tractor last' thread started on

 

[Chae1]

Is that the problem tractor that the 'how long should a tractor last' thread started on

If it's done 2.5k hours it would be equivalent to 10k because it's done 4x the work of a normal one?

 

[Xerion]

@Bloders
I only live in the Fatherland and spent 15 years as a contractor here so come on let's see what the experts come up with before l chip my 50 cents in
It would be nicht wirklich schön to spoil the thread so quickly
Max

 

[Lakesdigger]

Not getting into the weights or number of trailers but am i right in thinking they don't use pick up hitches like we do and as their hitch is mounted higher and further from the axle can't be hitch loaded as much.

 

[Andrew]

@Bloders
I only live in the Fatherland and spent 15 years as a contractor here so come on let's see what the experts come up with before l chip my 50 cents in
It would be nicht wirklich schön to spoil the thread so quickly
Max

Is it just tradition?

 

[Agriimark]

If it's done 2.5k hours it would be equivalent to 10k because it's done 4x the work of a normal one?

Shes dualed up though so his probally divided it by 4 to get to that figure. Similar calculation for his mpg at a guess

 

[glasshouse]

The trailers are based on old cart designs
They are used all over europe, not just germany

 

[ollie989898]

These old turntable trailers are used because it stops 50km/h legends from tipping them over on bends?

 

[Will 1594]

Would rather have a turntable trailer like this with 30 ton in it than a 18 /20:ton tandem tri axle on hook ,will be safer
who says turntables not as safe as on hook ,

 

[ollie989898]

Which all helps to get to Poland in record time [emoji3]

Remind me of my old Fendt joke:

Always select gear 1 for heavy draught work and gear 2 is for invading France.

 

[Cowabunga]

Would rather have a turntable trailer like this with 30 ton in it than a 18 /20:ton tandem tri axle on hook ,will be safer
who says turntables not as safe as on hook ,

Then explain to me why commercial truck trailers have wheels at the back and transfer weight to the artic tractor unit rather than have a wheel at each corner and a turntable like those German trailers.

 

[Lincsman]

In Canada they have 4 wheel trailers, except they dont have a turntable, the front wheels steer off the drawbar... even more stable.

 

[ollie989898]

Would rather have a turntable trailer like this with 30 ton in it than a 18 /20:ton tandem tri axle on hook ,will be safer
who says turntables not as safe as on hook ,

I believe the vast majority of these triaxle (and quad axle!) outfits are not used with a pick up hitch or hook. Instead they have a ball and spoon coupling on a sliding ladder hitch that you can adjust up/down to suit the trailer etc. Most of these will then have a hydraulic jack/leg that you use to lift the trailer to the correct height. That what I have seen on the continent a couple of times.

Lighter trailed machines can be pulled from a sort of pin and hole hitch that keeps the drawbar above the PTO shaft and well away from the link arms.

 

[ollie989898]

Then explain to me why commercial truck trailers have wheels at the back and transfer weight to the artic tractor unit rather than have a wheel at each corner and a turntable like those German trailers.

Exactly, some weight on the towing vehicle is useful for stability and traction. Not to mention you can 'feel' what it is doing behind you.

 

[Will 1594]

Then explain to me why commercial truck trailers have wheels at the back and transfer weight to the artic tractor unit rather than have a wheel at each corner and a turntable like those German trailers.

We are talking ag trailer Not hgv

 

[Lakesdigger]

Exactly, some weight on the towing vehicle is useful for stability and traction. Not to mention you can 'feel' what it is doing behind you.

Yes but if you take note of where the fifth wheel is located its such as to transfer load onto all axles of the tractor unit therefore keep it balanced. Not like a 5 ton hitch load on a tractor needing 2 ton on the front links to keep the nose down.

 

[CORK]

Some of these double trailer German agri combinations look like they could be carrying a decent payload. Some look like they could be 12tn per trailer if good wheat.
Lots of axles so easier on the road surfaces.

Not sure if we can comment on the quality of driving, is it better in Germany?
This is the country that has the Autobahn, invented MB Trac and Fendt high speed tractors (not to mention the cars) so to be fair they know a thing or two about road transportation.