Dowdeswell plough thoughts

[Bury the Trash]

as said above the front furrow width hyd.adjustment linkage adds length also the (manual) furrow width adjustable bits add weight

mine is also heavier because it has the optional 'double ' type depth wheel(s).

 

[Bury the Trash]

They are very straight forward to adjust width on, this one is currently set on 16 inches.....

when going down below 16 in to 14 or 12 the narrower cutting wings will be needed if fitting new ones
but could cut wider ones down if they are already fitted I guess, especially if they are worn a bit

 

[nick...]

I don’t know why you would want smaller wings.ive got 16inch wings on my Kuhn and it’s set on 14inch work with no ill affect.it came new set at 16inches and I closed it up.on my previous Kuhn I did once cut the wings down but there was no benefit other than wearing up grinding discs.
Nick...

 

[Bury the Trash]

…... and everything wears soon enough ...but anyway the shorter wings will make it a bit easier to pull ie less draft. and be cheaper to buy of course

 

[Vincent]

Hi all,
I need your thoughts on adding a 5th furrow to my dp8b. It has the sliding front furrow adjustment and 14" furrows.
Will the plough be able for the extra furrow and does any body have one available .
I won't be pulling it with anything bigger than a M100 or a TS100A so to much power should not be an issue.

 

[bobk]

Hi all,
I need your thoughts on adding a 5th furrow to my dp8b. It has the sliding front furrow adjustment and 14" furrows.
Will the plough be able for the extra furrow and does any body have one available .
I won't be pulling it with anything bigger than a M100 or a TS100A so to much power should not be an issue.

I've got 5 furrow dp8 , ploughs fine , 100hp wouldn't pull it unless you're on sand

 

[Nearly]

Go for it if you can find one.
I've a DP100 which is vari width version of same plough, much easier to plough with, but I have 8340.

 

[J 1177]

Hi all,
I need your thoughts on adding a 5th furrow to my dp8b. It has the sliding front furrow adjustment and 14" furrows.
Will the plough be able for the extra furrow and does any body have one available .
I won't be pulling it with anything bigger than a M100 or a TS100A so to much power should not be an issue.

When u say the sliding front furrow do u mean the setup with the ram? if so it will be fine, pull mine with a 6480 mf and havent broke it. They do take a bit more lifting with the weight being father back.

 

[J 1177]

I've got 5 furrow dp8 , ploughs fine , 100hp wouldn't pull it unless you're on sand

5130 manages fine on clay here but thats a propper 100hp

 

[Vincent]

It has the clamps and a sliding set up similar to a kverneland. You can just make it out in the picture. This set up will be lighter than the hydraulic adjustable type but will it take the extra weight and strain.

 

[Vincent]

5130 manages fine on clay here but thats a propper 100hp

I've got 5 furrow dp8 , ploughs fine , 100hp wouldn't pull it unless you're on sand

It's light land mostly organic contracting work and our own land is light to black soil. Have been pulling 4 furrows with a 7810and 7840 so pulling it should be ok I hope also have a TSR300D 4 furrow if it gets to wet for pulling 5.

 

[fermerboy]

It has the clamps and a sliding set up similar to a kverneland. You can just make it out in the picture. This set up will be lighter than the hydraulic adjustable type but will it take the extra weight and strain. View attachment 1076776

Don't want to be the doom merchant here but I wouldn't put a 5th furrow on that type of frame. I destroyed my 4 with a 7840 pulling it, admittedly on heavy clay soil, lot of twisting force on where the turnover shaft meets the sliding section when its all in the air.
The later type are a lot stronger.

 

[J 1177]

It's light land mostly organic contracting work and our own land is light to black soil. Have been pulling 4 furrows with a 7810and 7840 so pulling it should be ok I hope also have a TSR300D 4 furrow if it gets to wet for pulling 5.

You should be ok with that plough on a 5 my mate ran his fine behind a 5140 for years where he ran into trouble and cracked the lip off the beam is when he put a puma 145 on the frount

 

[Vincent]

For the bit I plough 200 ac max I think I will take the risk if I can get the 5th furrow. Thanks all for your replies and knowledge.

 

[bravheart]

Anybody looking for a second hand lightweight plough should consider a lemken DL 110 as mentioned above and if autoreset is required the the X version is especially lightweight for smaller tractors. The downside is all the bushed linkages in the reset version can be very worn in a s/h plough. These Ploughs are 14" off the shelf and with the addition of wedges on the legs can either be at 16" or turned the other way 12"
HTH.

 

[Nearly]

Having seen the pic I'll just point out that a DP100 (etc) has the linkage pins supported at both ends, that DP8 only has them fastened at one end.
Probably be ok but snapping has been known.....

Try Dunns Ploughs or Westlake plough parts in England, but they'll be wanting £3-400 for a good 5th furrow?
I sold my 4f after I bought a 5. Cost me less than that.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3046659219860 described as DP8 but looks like a 7.

 

[Bucks Boy]

I wouldn’t. Stub beam (where ram is attached to turn over beam) cracked on mine this year. Only 4 furrows pulled by JD 6410. Admitted hard ground didn’t help this year. If you want 5 furrows get a DP7. Probably need a bigger tractor then. I always think it’s better go faster rather than pull more over per run. Ground breaks up more.

 

[Bury the Trash]

For the bit I plough 200 ac max I think I will take the risk if I can get the 5th furrow. Thanks all for your replies and knowledge.

used respectfully it will be fine ,watch for the rear body jamming up on the headland then lifting it with all that extra weight on ,keep all shear bolts in good 'breaking' order .

they can break on the crank bit on the head stock ,but that will be age stress related and is welding repairable in my experience.
it will also wear the pin (s) on the end of the turnover ram as well ,keep an eye on those.

makes a nice plough of it imo, when you get it set up right i bet you will be pleased with it and 100 hp will pull it and fairly modern decent hydraulics help no end .

and we don't have any 'sand' around here either.

 

[Bury the Trash]

I wouldn’t. Stub beam (where ram is attached to turn over beam) cracked on mine this year. Only 4 furrows pulled by JD 6410. Admitted hard ground didn’t help this year. If you want 5 furrows get a DP7. Probably need a bigger tractor then. I always think it’s better go faster rather than pull more over per run. Ground breaks up more.

Yes will have to keep an eye on it like all of them to a degree i guess.
but Parts of the Turnover design on the B /Hydraulic Front Fur. is no stronger to any great amount ,and the part(s ) that pulls the plough actual draft, on the frame is definitely not stronger than the A design just diffferent .

@Vincent as someone already said an above post about weak points , might be worth ,if you have time, redesign in some way the bottom link pins , else they might rip out or bend ,take out the current stub and add a bracket so a pin can be put through like all the other headstocks.
Also where the top of the head stock takes the pin for the ram needs a bit over the top or something to strengthen,
but something ive wanted to get around to trying and the the thing that i reckon could transform stress on turnover is to add a bigger bore (but same stroke) turnover ram ,that would give more power for less speed /shock load i think, but would need to be proven in practice.
both the A and B have the same size ram buts its too small imo. wants one more like DP 7 size , different turnover design on them but even so its much steadier in practice

 

[Flat 10]

Off at a tangent sorry, but any of you think the XL skim mouldboards are worth the extra £10 over the standard type? I've used both but not noticed a massive difference but they were on different ploughs on different days.