Downer bullock

[Thick Farmer]

Ive got a bunch of Angus bullocks about 12 months of age on some rough grazing.

They were wormed with Ivomec Super about 2 weeks ago and turned out and have been doing well.

Last night I noticed one of them seemed a bit strange as he couldn't walk straight and kept falling over (as though he was drunk). I managed to restrainhim and gave some vitamin b, calcium and some pen/strep - this was all I had in the truck at the time.

This morning he was lying flat, but his legs were paddling furiously. The vet had a look and gave some magnesium and someting else I forget the name of (don't suppose it matters really as its still the same tonight).

I've managed to sit it up, but it's doing it's best to get back into the 'running on its side' position.

Has anyone seen a recovery from this before? I'm not hopeful and will probably shoot it in the morning unless someone can suggest a way of saving it.

 

[DB67]

Could try multi vitamin jag. Can they get ccn like lambs?

 

[gone up the hill]

Was it dehydrated/ scouring last night??

 

[Thick Farmer]

Was it dehydrated/ scouring last night??

Not scouring.

Didn't appear dehydrated, but I couldn't make it take any water as it was intent on throwing itself on its side.

It's urine was clear last night (not yellow as I'd expect if dehydrated).

It has white froth around its mouth today, but I don't know if that's been caused by being stretched out on its side for a while.

 

[lim x]

Know someone who had one with Listeriosis, kept walking in circles and falling over. They loaded it with anti biotics, lasted some months but before they could get it fat it died. Think they pick the infection from silage, feed or soil.

Don't know if yours has got the same but sounds similar.

 

[Thick Farmer]

Could try multi vitamin jag. Can they get ccn like lambs?

I just read up on CCN, and it sounds very similar. His vision does seem impaired come to think of it.

Having said that, I gave him 40ml of vitamin b last night and no real change.

 

[Thick Farmer]

Know someone who had one with Listeriosis, kept walking in circles and falling over. They loaded it with anti biotics, lasted some months but before they could get it fat it died. Think they pick the infection from silage, feed or soil.

Don't know if yours has got the same but sounds similar.

That's the opinion of one of our vets - she says listeriosis and the other vet says its something that the beast has ingested.

Can't see it pulling through in any case

 

[lim x]

Now you have said his vision is impaired could it be lead poisoning?? Any old fence batteries lying about?? Also with this they start to breathe heavy.

 

[Thick Farmer]

Now you have said his vision is impaired could it be lead poisoning?? Any old fence batteries lying about?? Also with this they start to breathe heavy.

Haven't seen any and breathing is ok. They're on a block of ground I rent from the national trust and there is a diverse range of plants growing there so a good chance it could have eaten someting odd.

 

[multi power]

has it been bitten by an adder by any chance? sounds like some kind of poison, whitch is a shame, otherwise i would shoot it n then in the freezer

 

[multi power]

whats temp like?

 

[bobk]

Ive got a bunch of Angus bullocks about 12 months of age on some rough grazing.

They were wormed with Ivomec Super about 2 weeks ago and turned out and have been doing well.

Last night I noticed one of them seemed a bit strange as he couldn't walk straight and kept falling over (as though he was drunk). I managed to restrainhim and gave some vitamin b, calcium and some pen/strep - this was all I had in the truck at the time.

This morning he was lying flat, but his legs were paddling furiously. The vet had a look and gave some magnesium and someting else I forget the name of (don't suppose it matters really as its still the same tonight).

I've managed to sit it up, but it's doing it's best to get back into the 'running on its side' position.

Has anyone seen a recovery from this before? I'm not hopeful and will probably shoot it in the morning unless someone can suggest a way of saving it.

Had one last year except a 2 year old , same symptoms , hope you get a better result

 

[grumpy]

has it been bitten by an adder by any chance? sounds like some kind of poison, whitch is a shame, otherwise i would shoot it n then in the freezer

ive been bitten by an adder,it made me puke a bullock wouldnt even notice.

 

[multi power]

ive been bitten by an adder,it made me puke a bullock wouldnt even notice.

we had a cow bitten, big lump on cows neck, took about a year to fully recover

 

[d williams]

has it been bitten by an adder by any chance? sounds like some kind of poison, whitch is a shame, otherwise i would shoot it n then in the freezer

After the jabs he's just had f**k going to a BBQ at yours

 

[nowtofajob]

In pigs they are the exact symptoms for meningitis. Dont think cattle can get that but its probably something in his head.

 

[stuart]

as the vet gave him magnesium was he thinking staggers

 

[multi power]

After the jabs he's just had fudge going to a BBQ at yours

but would you eat a kebab? or meat from supermarket?

 

[grumpy]

but would you eat a kebab? or meat from supermarket?

i would eat road kill,

 

[multi power]

i would eat road kill,

personaly i would rather something from knackermans lorry than from supermarket