Downer bullock

[multi power]

if i was sure it was not poison i would be happy to eat @Thick Farmer bullock

 

[grumpy]

personaly i would rather something from knackermans lorry than from supermarket

your a deluded snob then as super market beef is of a quality few local butchers could ever match.

 

[multi power]

your a deluded snob then as super market beef is of a quality few local butchers could ever match.

ffs you should know better, im no snob, i just like beef with a bit of flavour, supermarket meat is far too lean, not hung long enough, has the texture n what i assume is the same flavour as cardboard, if you want beef a fat 4 yearold native breed bullock shot at home n hung at least a week in fresh air cannot be beaten

 

[Blue.]

Any chance its mcf?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_malignant_catarrhal_fever

 

[d williams]

but would you eat a kebab? or meat from supermarket?

Yes I do and would but to suggest to kill and eat a animal that has had the treatment it has had by a farmer trying his best for the animal is of considerable concern even the withdrawal of wormer on its own before any antibiotic

 

[grumpy]

ffs you should know better, im no snob, i just like beef with a bit of flavour, supermarket meat is far too lean, not hung long enough, has the texture n what i assume is the same flavour as cardboard, if you want beef a fat 4 yearold native breed bullock shot at home n hung at least a week in fresh air cannot be beaten

super market beef is exactly what the customer wants thats the way they operate,if folks wanted different then they would supply it.

 

[multi power]

super market beef is exactly what the customer wants thats the way they operate,if folks wanted different then they would supply it.

no i dont think so, the consumer of today thinks fat is bad, so wants everything to be lean, but there is nothing wrong with animail fat, its all the processed shyte thats the problem, never heard of obesiety in the 50s n 60s

 

[multi power]

Yes I do and would but to suggest to kill and eat a animal that has had the treatment it has had by a farmer trying his best for the animal is of considerable concern even the withdrawal of wormer on its own before any antibiotic

fair point about the wormer, but i wouldnt worry about a bit of pen strep

 

[tinsheet]

Ive got a bunch of Angus bullocks about 12 months of age on some rough grazing.

They were wormed with Ivomec Super about 2 weeks ago and turned out and have been doing well.

Last night I noticed one of them seemed a bit strange as he couldn't walk straight and kept falling over (as though he was drunk). I managed to restrainhim and gave some vitamin b, calcium and some pen/strep - this was all I had in the truck at the time.

This morning he was lying flat, but his legs were paddling furiously. The vet had a look and gave some magnesium and someting else I forget the name of (don't suppose it matters really as its still the same tonight).

I've managed to sit it up, but it's doing it's best to get back into the 'running on its side' position.

Has anyone seen a recovery from this before? I'm not hopeful and will probably shoot it in the morning unless someone can suggest a way of saving it.

Any hemlock growing about? Lost a bull and a cow similar circumstances a couple of years ago, they died pretty quick mind.

 

[grumpy]

no i dont think so, the consumer of today thinks fat is bad, so wants everything to be lean, but there is nothing wrong with animail fat, its all the processed shyte thats the problem, never heard of obesiety in the 50s n 60s

and the super market supplys what the consumer wants or they would go bust,I'm a great admirer of supermarkets, they have a business acumen none can match.

 

[Walterp]

That's the opinion of one of our vets - she says listeriosis and the other vet says its something that the beast has ingested.

Can't see it pulling through in any case

Lost a cow to listeriosis this Winter - first time we've ever seen it.

Vet suggested high dose of antibiotic but it did no good - died within 3 days.

 

[Headless chicken]

What's the withdrawal on the wormer? Haverfordwest to emergency slaughter and their protocols are some what laxed.

Alternatively do it your self and i will grab a bit when I make my what seems to be weekly trip down to you @Thick Farmer

 

[Thick Farmer]

whats temp like?

High

 

[Thick Farmer]

fair point about the wormer, but i wouldnt worry about a bit of pen strep

Let me know if you want it before I shoot it tomorrow then.

 

[Thick Farmer]

Any hemlock growing about? Lost a bull and a cow similar circumstances a couple of years ago, they died pretty quick mind.

Could well be - there's loads of strange weeds growing out there!

 

[Thick Farmer]

Lost a cow to listeriosis this Winter - first time we've ever seen it.

Vet suggested high dose of antibiotic but it did no good - died within 3 days.

Was she exhibiting the same symptoms as this one?

Basically just flipping around on her side like a fish out of water?

 

[Thick Farmer]

What's the withdrawal on the wormer? Haverfordwest to emergency slaughter and their protocols are some what laxed.

Alternatively do it your self and i will grab a bit when I make my what seems to be weekly trip down to you @Thick Farmer

If you and @multipower get together you can have it - I can't be bothered to butcher it, but am happy to shoot it for you.

 

[Samcowman]

ive been bitten by an adder,it made me puke a bullock wouldnt even notice.

has it been bitten by an adder by any chance? sounds like some kind of poison, whitch is a shame, otherwise i would shoot it n then in the freezer

Doesn't sound like a snake bite, it if was a snake bite where it was bitten it would have swollen up where the bite was. with the 2 we have had in recent years the skin on nose ears and round the eyes died and fell off. One if them an older cow recovered and was normal by the end of summer but unfortunately wasn't in calf. The second one was a first calver and the skin all over her body over the space of a week dried up and went like cardboard and she was really struggling so had her out down. Could see the fang marks on her nose where she was bitten.

 

[le bon paysan]

Could try multi vitamin jag. Can they get ccn like lambs?

Needs Vitamin B1

Yes, they can get CCN at that age, sounds classic

 

[le bon paysan]

I just read up on CCN, and it sounds very similar. His vision does seem impaired come to think of it.

Having said that, I gave him 40ml of vitamin b last night and no real change.

Has to be B1 (not multi vit OR B12 which won't work)