Downer bullock

[RushesToo]

Not scouring.

Didn't appear dehydrated, but I couldn't make it take any water as it was intent on throwing itself on its side.

It's urine was clear last night (not yellow as I'd expect if dehydrated).

It has white froth around its mouth today, but I don't know if that's been caused by being stretched out on its side for a while.

Just wanted to note that this has been the best description that I can remember of symptoms. I have seen so many threads asking for more information and @Thick Farmer got what he saw and what he had done quickly. Doctors and Vets would really like this much information!

We got:
Breed
Age
Keep
Previous drugs
Symptoms and the timed changes.

Sadly I expect the animal is lost, but this was top nonetheless.

 

[Thick Farmer]

Has to be B1 (not multi vit OR B12 which won't work)

Thanks. I'll get some in the morning if he's still alive.

 

[Thick Farmer]

Just wanted to note that this has been the best description that I can remember of symptoms. I have seen so many threads asking for more information and @Thick Farmer got what he saw and what he had done quickly. Doctors and Vets would really like this much information!

We got:
Breed
Age
Keep
Previous drugs
Symptoms and the timed changes.

Sadly I expect the animal is lost, but this was top nonetheless.

Thanks for the praise, but I fear that you are right in this instance - the only reason I didn't shoot him this afternoon was because there were so many walkers on the coast path and I didn't want to tarnish the image of farmers even more...

 

[roscoe erf]

if i was sure it was not poison i would be happy to eat @Thick Farmer bullock

i had to read that twice

 

[Headless chicken]

If you and @multipower get together you can have it - I can't be bothered to butcher it, but am happy to shoot it for you.

If I knew what was wrong with it then I would go for it but dont fancy being put in the same situation as it. Mind you I am getting married next year maybe worth having some kept back just in case

 

[nacnud]

Are his limbs rigid? We had a young bullock die last week of tetanus. Fully conscious but could not move any of it's legs and just lay dead flat. The vet had no option but to put it down.

 

[Thick Farmer]

Are his limbs rigid? We had a young bullock die last week of tetanus. Fully conscious but could not move any of it's legs and just lay dead flat. The vet had no option but to put it down.

Legs were moving ok, but he didn't want to sit up.

Shot him this morning.

 

[nacnud]

Maybe peritonitis? Eaten something sharp?

 

[Thick Farmer]

Maybe peritonitis? Eaten something sharp?

Could be. I didn't bother with a post mortem - just turned the rest into another field and gave them a load of mineral licks.

 

[Woolless]

Any chance its mcf?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_malignant_catarrhal_fever

That crossed my mind too. The high temperature fits and wouldn't happen with poisoning or vitamin/mineral deficiency. Were its eyes cloudy at all?

 

[Thick Farmer]

That crossed my mind too. The high temperature fits and wouldn't happen with poisoning or vitamin/mineral deficiency. Were its eyes cloudy at all?

It's possible. I missed @eulb posting that last night.

It's eyes we're a little cloudy it think. It appeared to have impaired vision.

I just hope none of the rest have the same thing...

 

[Blod]

Could be. I didn't bother with a post mortem - just turned the rest into another field and gave them a load of mineral licks.

It's really interesting having a look and you will be amazed at how quickly you recognise when something isn't right. It can be useful too if you find a bit of wire or a parasitic burden

 

[Blue.]

It's possible. I missed @eulb posting that last night.

It's eyes we're a little cloudy it think. It appeared to have impaired vision.

I just hope none of the rest have the same thing...

I've only ever seen one with mcf,I sold my brother a couple of highland cows with calves at foot and one of the calves got it.

 

[bobk]

your a deluded snob then as super market beef is of a quality few local butchers could ever match.

Biggest load of bollox you've ever posted on this forum

 

[bobk]

Legs were moving ok, but he didn't want to sit up.

Shot him this morning.

Not good TF, but first loss is sometimes the best

 

[Blaithin]

Could've been Polio. Impairs their vision and they tend to start going one direction like with Listeriosis. I've had some come back when they're given a three day treatment with Thiamine, Dexamethasone and LP but many don't. Or they do and then go down with it again at a later date. They seem to get it most between 8 - 12 months too. Vitamin A deficiencies can cause seizure like symptoms when they're excited as well but this doesn't sound like that.

Nervous issues are hard to diagnose let alone treat. They're rough going and it's never fun to find an animal down with symptoms of them. Tough luck.

 

[penntor]

It's possible. I missed @eulb posting that last night.

It's eyes we're a little cloudy it think. It appeared to have impaired vision.

I just hope none of the rest have the same thing...

If MCF then the eye goes cloudy from the bottom upwards, really weird. Also will have sores in mouth and possibly around nostrils.

penntor

 

[Thick Farmer]

If MCF then the eye goes cloudy from the bottom upwards, really weird. Also will have sores in mouth and possibly around nostrils.

penntor

Thanks. I'll look out for that in future - too late to check now.

 

[multi power]

are the rest still ok ?

 

[Thick Farmer]

are the rest still ok ?

Yes. All good so far