Dr Tim Leunig

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
Well there’s the sign they’re going to be thrown under the bus.
This smacks of Blairism and ignores food security. The theory being that others can produce cheaper and more efficiently than us. The car industry is another example of similar defeatism. So what are we good at --drawing the dole and pushing paper across a desk? It sounds very isolationist but I feel we are in grave danger if we expect the rest of the world to look after our basic needs.
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
This smacks of Blairism and ignores food security. The theory being that others can produce cheaper and more efficiently than us. The car industry is another example of similar defeatism. So what are we good at --drawing the dole and pushing paper across a desk? It sounds very isolationist but I feel we are in grave danger if we expect the rest of the world to look after our basic needs.

Dear Arcobob, my apologies if am wrong but I hav you down as a Tory voter? And so I will just point out this guy was working in the inner bowels of the Conservative and Brexit Party, the party having been in power nigh on a decade. Amusing or what!!

Best wishes.

PS Have you had any recollections of any other ladies of foreign origin snapped with your trusty box brownie!!
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
Dear Arcobob, my apologies if am wrong but I hav you down as a Tory voter? And so I will just point out this guy was working in the inner bowels of the Conservative and Brexit Party, the party having been in power nigh on a decade. Amusing or what!!

Best wishes.

PS Have you had any recollections of any other ladies of foreign origin snapped with your trusty box brownie!!
I am totally focused on my achievable aims ! If the government and Brexit party are listening to narrow minded opinions like his I am very disappointed. :mad:
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
Dear Arcobob, my apologies if am wrong but I hav you down as a Tory voter? And so I will just point out this guy was working in the inner bowels of the Conservative and Brexit Party, the party having been in power nigh on a decade. Amusing or what!!

Best wishes.

PS Have you had any recollections of any other ladies of foreign origin snapped with your trusty box brownie!!
You may have also noticed that I am a Nationalist. Who is the Conservative and Brexit Party ? A fantasy of your imagination perhaps. It is right that opinions are taken into account but this one does not fit with my thinking.
 

fudge

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire.
I wonder if Cummings is handing over public money to this particular “misfit”? If so, that is troubling, siting Singapore as a model for the uk ag is so inappropriate it is worthless.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
I’m pretty sure I read on this forum somewhere that Brexiters wanted a Singapore style economy.!
This fellow is thinking out loud, breaking out of boxes, suggesting possibilities etc. etc., and long may he and others do so - and then be ignored when it's b*llocks. (y)

There some aspects of Singapore's economic model that are great and we would be daft not to learn from and emulate. There are other aspects that are fine for what is, effectively, a city state but which would not be appropriate to us and we shouldn't even waste time considering.

I, for one, am all for the former, that being pragmatic targeting of / for the economy and the pursuit of our national interest as far as possible.

However, and nobody can accuse me of being a left-winger, I'm on the record as having advocated the maintenance and promotion of essential industries - to the point of a from of nationalisation* - and strategic assets too. We can have a very successful, free economy and guarantee national security too. :)




*I have no problem with national ownership of e.g. railways or energy supplies. But, and this is the key, we have seen time and again, here and abroad, that public ownership combined with public management of any given industry is a rarely a recipe for success. Using railways as an example, I would happily see them nationally owned but franchised out and fares set by government. If a fair is set of £1 for a given journey and a firm can run it for 20p, they get to keep 80p and good luck to them. If it costs them £1.20, they lose. We need to see the complacency of public management replaced by the dynamism of the profit incentive.
 

fudge

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire.
I’m pretty sure I read on this forum somewhere that Brexiters wanted a Singapore style economy.!
One simply cannot revisit the promises and untruths of the brexiteers! They have simply delivered the will of the people. So when it goes tits up it will be the people’s fault. You seem to forget the first rule of the Brexit supporting politician, “It’s always somebody else’s fault”.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
One simply cannot revisit the promises and untruths of the brexiteers! They have simply delivered the will of the people. So when it goes tits up it will be the people’s fault. You seem to forget the first rule of the Brexit supporting politician, “It’s always somebody else’s fault”.
Seeing as you're criticising the supporters of Brexit on the basis of dishonesty... what are your thoughts about the EU's originally saying that a 'Canada +' deal was their preferred outcome of Brexit, and their complete volte face with them now saying that such a deal is 'impossible'*? Just asking. :)




*'impossible' being the EU term for something they don't want, will sulk a lot to avoid and will then accept. (y)
 

fudge

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire.
Seeing as you're criticising the supporters of Brexit on the basis of dishonesty... what are your thoughts about the EU's originally saying that a 'Canada +' deal was their preferred outcome of Brexit, and their complete volte face with them now saying that such a deal is 'impossible'*? Just asking. :)




*'impossible' being the EU term for something they don't want, will sulk a lot to avoid and will then accept. (y)
Well that’s a response to Johnson’s posturing!! Maybe the EU think that it impossible to negotiate with someone as inconsistent as Johnson? All anyone can do is wait (some more) and see what happens.
As I implied previously Johnson’s (Cummings’) public pronouncements are paving the way for a blame game rather than a successful negotiation. Look back to talk of the easiest trade deal in history is just pointless, we all know that was a lie.
 
It should be the easiest trade deal in history. Or it was, until issues like the sovereignty of Gibraltar and the Greek marbles started entering the discussion.

The belief is that the EU can hold the UK to ransom. That isn't really true. We can source our imports from elsewhere and the London financial markets would look on a Singapore-esque system highly favourably.
 

robs1

Member
This fellow is thinking out loud, breaking out of boxes, suggesting possibilities etc. etc., and long may he and others do so - and then be ignored when it's b*llocks. (y)

There some aspects of Singapore's economic model that are great and we would be daft not to learn from and emulate. There are other aspects that are fine for what is, effectively, a city state but which would not be appropriate to us and we shouldn't even waste time considering.

I, for one, am all for the former, that being pragmatic targeting of / for the economy and the pursuit of our national interest as far as possible.

However, and nobody can accuse me of being a left-winger, I'm on the record as having advocated the maintenance and promotion of essential industries - to the point of a from of nationalisation* - and strategic assets too. We can have a very successful, free economy and guarantee national security too. :)




*I have no problem with national ownership of e.g. railways or energy supplies. But, and this is the key, we have seen time and again, here and abroad, that public ownership combined with public management of any given industry is a rarely a recipe for success. Using railways as an example, I would happily see them nationally owned but franchised out and fares set by government. If a fair is set of £1 for a given journey and a firm can run it for 20p, they get to keep 80p and good luck to them. If it costs them £1.20, they lose. We need to see the complacency of public management replaced by the dynamism of the profit incentive.
Was looking at an apartment here the other day it's in good nick and in a small well maintained block, the local taxes were around 4800 euros per year, no wonder there are loads of council workers clearing snow etc, Macron came to visit the town a couple of weeks ago after the Mayor kicked off about lack of snow, half the police force of France must have turned up about 6 hours before him, they didnt check the drains or any thing just stood about town laden down with bullet proof gear and sub machine guns, some protester managed to let of a fire cracker by his car while his was in the cable car apparently and the mayors web site got hacked by protesters too. Got to love the socialist state that is France, its what's mine is mine but what's yours is mine too
 
Was looking at an apartment here the other day it's in good nick and in a small well maintained block, the local taxes were around 4800 euros per year, no wonder there are loads of council workers clearing snow etc, Macron came to visit the town a couple of weeks ago after the Mayor kicked off about lack of snow, half the police force of France must have turned up about 6 hours before him, they didnt check the drains or any thing just stood about town laden down with bullet proof gear and sub machine guns, some protester managed to let of a fire cracker by his car while his was in the cable car apparently and the mayors web site got hacked by protesters too. Got to love the socialist state that is France, its what's mine is mine but what's yours is mine too

It is a highly socialist country. Has been for a long time. Having been there a lot that is the first thing you recognise.
 

robs1

Member
It is a highly socialist country. Has been for a long time. Having been there a lot that is the first thing you recognise.
Parking is great here, they just park anywhere they like but most houses have signs up saying private parking, during the busy half term the gondola car park was full up so loads just park on the side of the road, there are big signs saying no parking but no took any notice, then one day every car had a parking ticket folk were going mad, next day loads more parked there, no tickets this went on for several days then out the blue a load more tickets, it's all done on a whim it seems or perhaps the mayor needs a bit of cash
 
Parking is great here, they just park anywhere they like but most houses have signs up saying private parking, during the busy half term the gondola car park was full up so loads just park on the side of the road, there are big signs saying no parking but no took any notice, then one day every car had a parking ticket folk were going mad, next day loads more parked there, no tickets this went on for several days then out the blue a load more tickets, it's all done on a whim it seems or perhaps the mayor needs a bit of cash

One thing I did like about France was that everyone has to take their trash to the nearest wheelie bin and sort it themselves. Easier and faster for bin men and far less manual handling. Excellent idea.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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    Votes: 78 42.9%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 63 34.6%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 30 16.5%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 5 2.7%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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