Dr Ursula von der Leyen

Should she stay or should she go?


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le bon paysan

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A more balanced view
Member states hesitated to ask the EU to order more because of the novelty of the technological approach
Purchases were slowed down further as the EU insisted that liability in case of negative side-effects on health remains with pharma companies and therefore rejected early emergency authorisation. Many EU countries neither wanted nor asked for faster authorisation because of this liability issue. Pros and cons can be debated, but risk aversion in many EU countries is a fact
It is impossible to say how things would have gone if there had not been joint EU action. It seems safe to say that many EU countries would not have been able to negotiate faster vaccine deliveries with pharma companies. It also seems fair to say that the pressure from the Trump administration on pharma companies to deliver for the US market first was huge and EU countries individually would have had less leverage. Moreover, the politics of vaccine nationalism within the EU would have been toxic
• Guntram Wolff is director of the Brussels-based Bruegel thinktank
 

le bon paysan

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How old is that? 2 years?
Nothing like not letting your guest answer anything !
Would love to see him go after Boris. And the conservative party. And the Brexiteers.
Oh wait, they're his mates!
 

linga

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How old is that? 2 years?
Nothing like not letting your guest answer anything !
Would love to see him go after Boris. And the conservative party. And the Brexiteers.
Oh wait, they're his mates!
I think you are being unfair on him. He goes after anyone he interviews regardless of their politics
 
How old is that? 2 years?
Nothing like not letting your guest answer anything !
Would love to see him go after Boris. And the conservative party. And the Brexiteers.
Oh wait, they're his mates!
He goes after anyone, in fact don't you remember him calling out Boris Multiple times for not appearing on his show/the no platforming?
 

neilo

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From another thread....

I'm also pretty sure the whole world classifies the daily mail as somewhere between gossip and lies. No one considers it to be news.
I think we may have found the one that thinks it's gospel? Although I suspect there may be a few of those in this section of the forum...... :whistle:
 

le bon paysan

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Limousin, France
From another thread....



I think we may have found the one that thinks it's gospel? Although I suspect there may be a few of those in this section of the forum...... :whistle:
Something to remember is the EU refused to waive the vaccine manufacturers responsibility for any adverse effects from these vaccines. This was also a factor in slowing it all down.
Boris did. Quite who you look too for any redress in the uk would be interesting.
 

Raider112

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Something to remember is the EU refused to waive the vaccine manufacturers responsibility for any adverse effects from these vaccines. This was also a factor in slowing it all down.
Boris did. Quite who you look too for any redress in the uk would be interesting.
Every post seems to be a dig at the Country of your birth, which I just can't fathom. If England play France in the Euro's this summer who will you support?
Genuine question, not going to use it to start anything, just trying to work out where you're coming from.
 

neilo

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Something to remember is the EU refused to waive the vaccine manufacturers responsibility for any adverse effects from these vaccines. This was also a factor in slowing it all down.
Boris did. Quite who you look too for any redress in the uk would be interesting.
You never listen do you? In the UK, newly free of tyranny, we are all to think positive and talk the job up. There will be no need of seeking redress as everything will be tickety boo. :)
 

le bon paysan

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Every post seems to be a dig at the Country of your birth, which I just can't fathom. If England play France in the Euro's this summer who will you support?
Genuine question, not going to use it to start anything, just trying to work out where you're coming from.
Which it isn't .
The post you quoted gave a perfectly legitimate reason that slowed up vaccine contracts. The UK waived responsibility, the EU said it was too big a risk.
Brexit made no difference in the speed that the UK could order or how it negotiated said contracts.
No other country felt able to waive the manufacturers guarantees.
Much on here is a dig at the EU , even if it's not true.
I hate watching the UK get sold down the river by a bunch of twisting liars that are out solely for themselves. If you'd read that ft link I put up you'd see that DEFRA begged for equivalency and frost said No! Why?
Don't watch football.
Rugby , I support England , wife Wales.
France if they're not playing👍
Edit, and I'd be asking even more if I still lived there!
 

Ashtree

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Which it isn't .
The post you quoted gave a perfectly legitimate reason that slowed up vaccine contracts. The UK waived responsibility, the EU said it was too big a risk.
Brexit made no difference in the speed that the UK could order or how it negotiated said contracts.
No other country felt able to waive the manufacturers guarantees.
Much on here is a dig at the EU , even if it's not true.
I hate watching the UK get sold down the river by a bunch of twisting liars that are out solely for themselves. If you'd read that ft link I put up you'd see that DEFRA begged for equivalency and frost said No! Why?
Don't watch football.
Rugby , I support England , wife Wales.
France if they're not playing👍
Edit, and I'd be asking even more if I still lived there!
Crucial last sentence. Why on earth the leavers on here aren’t absolutely stuck into the government for the sh1tstorm Brexit deal which has been delivered, is utterly beyond comprehension. Would anybody on here sign a contract to have their house reroofed , and accept if the builder threw a leaky tarpaulin on instead of slates?
As a Europhile, I'm absolutely disgusted with the job EU have done on the vaccination, and even more disgusted about their utter fudge up of the aftermath and the NI protocol. There’s no question in my mind, there should be a serious inquiry, and heads should roll.
Leavers should be equally and more so angry and challenging of the Brexit deal!
NI unionists either leavers or remainders should have both Arlene and the entire cabal of DUP MP’s by the throat, and Boris by the balls.
But no, leavers just double down, while the county goes to pot, with its disastrous deal.
#brexitisagrestsuccess
 
Crucial last sentence. Why on earth the leavers on here aren’t absolutely stuck into the government for the sh1tstorm Brexit deal which has been delivered, is utterly beyond comprehension. Would anybody on here sign a contract to have their house reroofed , and accept if the builder threw a leaky tarpaulin on instead of slates?
As a Europhile, I'm absolutely disgusted with the job EU have done on the vaccination, and even more disgusted about their utter fudge up of the aftermath and the NI protocol. There’s no question in my mind, there should be a serious inquiry, and heads should roll.
Leavers should be equally and more so angry and challenging of the Brexit deal!
NI unionists either leavers or remainders should have both Arlene and the entire cabal of DUP MP’s by the throat, and Boris by the balls.
But no, leavers just double down, while the county goes to pot, with its disastrous deal.
#brexitisagrestsuccess
The alternative to the deal was a no deal we always knew that
why people cannot accept democracy
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Crucial last sentence. Why on earth the leavers on here aren’t absolutely stuck into the government for the sh1tstorm Brexit deal which has been delivered, is utterly beyond comprehension. Would anybody on here sign a contract to have their house reroofed , and accept if the builder threw a leaky tarpaulin on instead of slates?
As a Europhile, I'm absolutely disgusted with the job EU have done on the vaccination, and even more disgusted about their utter fudge up of the aftermath and the NI protocol. There’s no question in my mind, there should be a serious inquiry, and heads should roll.
Leavers should be equally and more so angry and challenging of the Brexit deal!
NI unionists either leavers or remainders should have both Arlene and the entire cabal of DUP MP’s by the throat, and Boris by the balls.
But no, leavers just double down, while the county goes to pot, with its disastrous deal.
#brexitisagrestsuccess
The Brexit deal is certainly a fudge, but it was always destined to be. It is somewhere in the middle of the positions of those (nutters) that wanted a hard Brexit, come what may, and those that didn’t really want to leave at all. It’s probably as good as what could be achieved, somewhere in the middle of two diametrically opposed viewpoints ........ but yes, a fudge.
 
The Brexit deal is certainly a fudge, but it was always destined to be. It is somewhere in the middle of the positions of those (nutters) that wanted a hard Brexit, come what may, and those that didn’t really want to leave at all. It’s probably as good as what could be achieved, somewhere in the middle of two diametrically opposed viewpoints ........ but yes, a fudge.
The whole Eu system is a series of fudges
in ag since the introduction of milk quotas every change in the cap
 

AGCO reports sales increase of 43.5% compared to 2020 figures

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Written by Agriland Team from Agriland

The tractor manufacturer AGCO, which consists of brands such as Challenger, Fendt, GSI, Massey Ferguson and Valtra, reported its results for the second quarter ending June 30, 2021.

Net sales for the second quarter were approximately $2.9 billion, an increase of approximately 43.5% compared to the second quarter of 2020.

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Reported net income was $3.73/share for the second quarter of 2021, and adjusted...
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