Draft Control JD 6630

[dano]

G'day All, we have a new to us John Deere 6630 and are currently trying to chisel plough some land with a 3 point linkage implement.
What draft control setting should I use if I just want the plough to stay at the same height and not move either up on down, it is currently bogging all the way down as soon as we hit some soft stuff. We are used to the old 3 point linkage control of a simple lever on the 50 series John Deere's. Any feed back wil be greatly appreciated, tempers are getting a bit heated and patience is running out with it.
Thank you,

Dan

 

[nick...]

If you want position control use no 1.no 5 is full draft and the inbetween bit mixes a bit of both depending on the setting.hope this helps
Nick...

 

[yorkie]

Start on3 if it moves around to much keep moveing to nearer to1,same applies if in varying types of land

 

[dano]

Thanks for that guys, played around with it today and have just left it set to number 1. I ended up welding up some depth wheels for the chisel plough to also help prevent it bogging down. I'm a bit suprised by how weak the downward force is on this 6630.

 

[JPB]

I would probs say 3 would be ok

 

[nick...]

What do you mean by down force.gravity lowers the implement and its a powered lift
Nick...

 

[yorkie]

Thanks for that guys, played around with it today and have just left it set to number 1. I ended up welding up some depth wheels for the chisel plough to also help prevent it bogging down. I'm a bit suprised by how weak the downward force is on this 6630.

if you need to put depth wheels on either sensing pins have gone,or you need to park it up and learn how to drive a tractor

 

[Mursal]

Try and set it that you don't really use the wheels, to make sure all is well with the tractor, before it goes out of warranty, if any applies ........

 

[Rusty#1]

What do you mean by down force.gravity lowers the implement and its a powered lift
Nick...

I must admit the CNH power down feature is far superior to the deere only power up, I was ploughing the other day along side a nh and I struggled to get plough in the ground in places on headlands but the nh just powerd down fair play

 

[yorkie]

I must admit the CNH power down feature is far superior to the deere only power up, I was ploughing the other day along side a nh and I struggled to get plough in the ground in places on headlands but the nh just powerd down fair play

Have you tried quick drop in hms lets it go down below set depth and then comes back up,it does make a difference when hard

 

[Rusty#1]

Have you tried quick drop in hms lets it go down below set depth and then comes back up,it does make a difference when hard

Not tried that to be fair I'll remember that and give it a go next time

 

[Cowabunga]

Which NH models have double acting linkage lift rams? I would not have thought that such a feature would be suitable for any draft work.

 

[Salopian_Will]

Which NH models have double acting linkage lift rams? I would not have thought that such a feature would be suitable for any draft work.

All of ours have had the same feature - TM140/190, T6000 and T7000 series and very good it is too.

 

[CORK]

I must admit the CNH power down feature is far superior to the deere only power up, I was ploughing the other day along side a nh and I struggled to get plough in the ground in places on headlands but the nh just powerd down fair play

Cheat and plough a run along the headland where you want your plough to enter. It'll go down easy and should stay down.

Your CNH buddy probably won't let you though as it would take away his advantage!!

Fendt also have power down I believe. Handy for changing wheels...

 

[spikeislander]

Tis an option on fendt

 

[Cowabunga]

I do not believe it is available on Nh tractors. Certainly not on the TM. I'm open to persuasion on the current models, though I doubt it very much.

Some MF and CNH models do have a 'dump' or 'quick entry' feature which just overrides the draft control until the driver releases the rocker switch, but no way does that power down the links.

The main reason for slow entry or failure to maintain depth is a longer than optimal top link, worn shares, hard ground, or a tractor that is too big and tall for the implement.

 

[ridger]

I do not believe it is available on Nh tractors. Certainly not on the TM. I'm open to persuasion on the current models, though I doubt it very much.

Some MF and CNH models do have a 'dump' or 'quick entry' feature which just overrides the draft control until the driver releases the rocker switch, but no way does that power down the links.

The main reason for slow entry or failure to maintain depth is a longer than optimal top link, worn shares, hard ground, or a tractor that is too big and tall for the implement.

Definitely not on my 3 tm's anyway. Front linkage is double acting but not the back

 

[Rusty#1]

I do not believe it is available on Nh tractors. Certainly not on the TM. I'm open to persuasion on the current models, though I doubt it very much.

Some MF and CNH models do have a 'dump' or 'quick entry' feature which just overrides the draft control until the driver releases the rocker switch, but no way does that power down the links.

The main reason for slow entry or failure to maintain depth is a longer than optimal top link, worn shares, hard ground, or a tractor that is too big and tall for the implement.

Well the lift rams have 2 pipes going to them top n bottom so unless ones for show I assuming it can be double acting, will find out later on t7.250 btw and am sure the 7050's were the same

 

[Cowabunga]

Is the 'power down' feature a figment of your imagination or a CNH innovative feature that gives them a performance edge?

If it is a real feature, how does the tractor weight-transfer for traction when the feature surely transfers weight in reverse and potentially lifts the back end of the tractor to the detriment of traction?

 

[yorkie]

Is the 'power down' feature a figment of your imagination or a CNH innovative feature that gives them a performance edge?

If it is a real feature, how does the tractor weight-transfer for traction when the feature surely transfers weight in reverse and potentially lifts the back end of the tractor to the detriment of traction?

Our fendt has pressure down it is adjustable same as combine header what pressure you have down,plough with a slight pressure down it helps when in varying soils stops it moveing about to much,no loss in traction,same with drill keeps it same depth when hopper has less in,some body borrowed beet drill and snapped it in half by not letting it float, there is a setting in book of words so you can change wheels lifting front and back off ground with link arms front and back