Drainage

[Case290]

I think that’s workable (isn’t it) just better to be drained. Working on the wet bits hear. If the ditches have been cleaned out and all the out falls which you know are clear / jetted nothing much left but new. I’ve seen a couple of fields hear transform from wet holes. Partly our own fault from mole draining straight through the old drainage system. New drains 2’6” deep, sorted. That looks like some new drains will sort it.

 

[Adeptandy]

I think that’s workable (isn’t it) just better to be drained. Working on the wet bits hear. If the ditches have been cleaned out and all the out falls which you know are clear / jetted nothing much left but new. I’ve seen a couple of fields hear transform from wet holes. Partly our own fault from mole draining straight through the old drainage system. New drains 2’6” deep, sorted. That looks like some new drains will sort it.

Agreed, draining it would sort it, but adding £67/acre/year to the rent is it worth it ? A normal winter and I doubt it will flood. Alternatively, does it make more sense just to spring crop it until I get the soil structure back from 2 years of lakes

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Have you thought of planting it up with Miscanthus

 

[Case290]

See what rent increase they are talking about maybe worth mentioning a little Job that needs doing.

 

[teslacoils]

Agreed, draining it would sort it, but adding £67/acre/year to the rent is it worth it ? A normal winter and I doubt it will flood. Alternatively, does it make more sense just to spring crop it until I get the soil structure back from 2 years of lakes

Yes, because you're already paying X for it to be 75 percent wet slop all year.

My farm is mega flat. Even with the low levels of rainfall we have (doesn't seem like it) without drains it would be grass only. So if you want arable crops in, get it drained. Because £60/AC extra is probably worth it to get a decent crop each year
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[ih1455xl]

Can you drain it yourself and have a agreement with landlord on a sliding scale for 15 or so years hire or buy a tractor mounted trencher and pop a couple of pipes in every year as and when needed

 

[Adeptandy]

Can you drain it yourself and have a agreement with landlord on a sliding scale for 15 or so years hire or buy a tractor mounted trencher and pop a couple of pipes in every year as and when needed

Tried that before with them, never got a penny back. That’s the problem with ever changing land agents and council policy changes.
Think I’ll try a mole first, some of its coming spring cropping next year and see how the winter is again. Another wet one and it will have to be drained

 

[ih1455xl]

Can you drag some 3in in with a mole plough?

 

[Dry Rot]

Sandy loam? Maybe a ditch would be better and deepen the existing back to the lowest level. It's transformed my place and it has amazed me how far my deepened ditches pull water. Pipes just clog. The bottom of the ditch will be level back to where it joins the main channel, down 5 foot in places.

 

[Will 1594]

Maybe it was grass for a reason Andy Will be paid to put it back soon and those wetland patches for curlew etc. Run a few sheep and cows to keep it tidy

 

[Adeptandy]

Sandy loam? Maybe a ditch would be better and deepen the existing back to the lowest level. It's transformed my place and it has amazed me how far my deepened ditches pull water. Pipes just clog. The bottom of the ditch will be level back to where it joins the main channel, down 5 foot in places.

Black peaty Fen over clay

 

[Wombat]

Can you find the source of the water and get away with a few drains that won't cost a lot

Haha as said it’s the bloody sky round here and it’s a fecking nuisance from Oct to March

 

[Adeptandy]

Maybe it was grass for a reason Andy Will be paid to put it back soon and those wetland patches for curlew etc. Run a few sheep and cows to keep it tidy

RSPB have already taken 76 acre of the farm for Godwits, they have mentioned they’d like all of it. I’m not keen on moving again, getting g tired of improving there houses

 

[Dairyfarmer2016]

Just an idea I’m in kind of the same situation tenanted farm, I have bought a single leg mole plough with a 4 inch bullet on it I have a day in spring and a day at the bqck end of summer it works a treat! Whether this could be an idea

 

[Case290]

Draining it your self may be cheeper if you have abit of luck but all theses trenches are v old and the chance of getting one that dosnt. Break down. Are v slim. I went down the do it your self job and pleased I did but it’s getting repaired atm and there’s not a cheep repair with these things.

 

[CORK]

Planning to do some open land drains shortly.
There will be underground pipe & gravel field drains running into the open drains.

I have seen some guys in the U.K. using a type of concrete face on the side of the open drain where the underground field drain joins it.

It looks like a good idea to me, stops the gravel falling into the open drain and also makes the gravel drain more visible when maintenance cleaning is being done in the open drain.

Does anyone have the correct name for this piece of concrete and some pictures to show the size & shape of it please?
I’m in Ireland and I’ve never seen them here.

Thanks in advance.

 

[ste stuart]

General Purpose Headwalls - JKH Drainage Units

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I generally use these

 

[CORK]

General Purpose Headwalls - JKH Drainage Units

A light weight recessed headwall suitable for most situations where batter angle is not less than 45 degrees. Contact us to find out more...

www.jkhltd.co.uk

I generally use these

Nice job, thanks

 

[glasshouse]

Its the age old problem, tenant pays for drainage then pays more rent for land
Drainage should be written down over 40 yr not 14

 

[CORK]

Its the age old problem, tenant pays for drainage then pays more rent for land
Drainage should be written down over 40 yr not 14

It’s my own land in this case