Dribble Bar vs Trailing Shoe.

[Sid]

The trailing shoe definitely takes 30 or 40 hp more than the dribble bar, keep off hills with the trailing shoe , it will end up getting wrecked on the side of a hill.

We do land that's so steep square bales have been known to roll away so that's factually incorrect.

Sounds like you need operators not steering wheel attendants!

 

[fiat 9090]

We do land that's so steep square bales have been known to roll away so that's factually incorrect.

Sounds like you need operators not steering wheel attendants!

You just need a driver with brains

 

[Keep_moving]

2 other points when going shopping for one:
1) chassis or back door mounted
I see Mastek have a frame now instead of back door as an option I think
2) vertical or horizontal macerator. Apparently the vertical is a better job as the horizontal doesn’t like stones and vertical is supposed to be better to handle baled silage.
Don’t own one yet but these points I observed in older threads.

 

[James]

My heads fried now
Was thinking db was the answer now worried that if I don't get a shoe I'll regret it.

 

[fiat 9090]

2 other points when going shopping for one:
1) chassis or back door mounted
I see Mastek have a frame now instead of back door as an option I think
2) vertical or horizontal macerator. Apparently the vertical is a better job as the horizontal doesn’t like stones and vertical is supposed to be better to handle baled silage.
Don’t own one yet but these points I observed in older threads.

Horizontal are cheaper to make and don't need as much pressure to feed all the pipes consistently but your are right as regards the vertical macerat

My heads fried now
Was thinking db was the answer now worried that if I don't get a shoe I'll regret it.

are you going for a complete job or retrofit ,

 

[Sid]

I personally think these Grant's should be based on how much nutrients the equipment can capture.
From small amount for dribble bar to large amount for disc injectors.

Running costs on sand can be horrendous from what I hear.

 

[James]

are you going for a complete job or retrofit ,

Retro

 

[Speedstar]

The trailing shoe definitely takes 30 or 40 hp more than the dribble bar, keep off hills with the trailing shoe , it will end up getting wrecked on the side of a hill.

What load a Bulls*** you talk there is no way it takes 30 to 40 hp to pull it sounds like you need a better tractor & driver

 

[shumungus]

My heads fried now
Was thinking db was the answer now worried that if I don't get a shoe I'll regret it.

My apologies but your better finding out these things before you make your purchase than after. I think that the thing is biased towards the db in NI as it's mostly contractors that have had to purchase low emission equipment up to date and their prioritys are cost and ease of use. They dont really care about nitrogen usage or sward contamination. So they defend their choice and rubbish the alternatives. It's the same as everything else there is two sides to any story. Some good points being raised here from both sides.

 

[Speedstar]

The joskin trailing shoe I had was a disaster , not a hope of the macerator lasting 5 years , I’ll never let a trailing shoe around again , just too much to go wrong on it , I seen one get caught for power going up slope , stopped and rolled back a bit with her down , some mess .

We have done 100's of 1000's of cube meters with a Joskin trailing shoe & only put the odd knive in it , more of your Jimmy talk you are full of it , the sh!t is what the trailing shoe spreads but by the sound of it you do it with your mouth

 

[James]

My apologies but your better finding out these things before you make your purchase than after. I think that the thing is biased towards the db in NI as it's mostly contractors that have had to purchase low emission equipment up to date and their prioritys are cost and ease of use. They dont really care about nitrogen usage or sward contamination. So they defend their choice and rubbish the alternatives. It's the same as everything else there is two sides to any story. Some good points being raised here from both sides.

No apologies necessary I agree with everything you say there. I contract too.

 

[shumungus]

No apologies necessary I agree with everything you say there. I contract too.

But therin lies a problem if you are contracting with a ts instead of a db would you need to charge more?

 

[fiat 9090]

I personally think these Grant's should be based on how much nutrients the equipment can capture.
From small amount for dribble bar to large amount for disc injectors.

Running costs on sand can be horrendous from what I hear.

You can use a TS as a dB by taking off boots ,if you are a farmer that wants the flexibility of when you spread regarding grass covers the the TS has advantages

 

[Sheep]

https://www.bomech.org/products/

Take a look at these, very little difference to a dribble bar, honestly its just a bit of steel and a boot at the end. 100kg difference max in a 9m? I'd go TS.

 

[Boohoo]

Trailing shoe every time, or better still an injector to keep emissions to a minimum. Then when everywhere is full and ground is too wet to walk on in February you can fire up the sludgegator and your emissions for the year will only be average...

 

[Davy]

@Conrod96 Did you go from a trailing shoe to a dribble bar?

 

[Conrod96]

@Conrod96 Did you go from a trailing shoe to a dribble bar?

Yeah we did

 

[shumungus]

Yeah we did

If you don't mind, why? Good points / bad points of both?

 

[Barleycorn]

Worse thing on our trailing shoe is the bar that crimps the pipes to cut off the flow when you lift it up. On thick slurry this blocks. Currently using splashplate, but if we put it back on we will disconnect this and just let it dribble.

 

[Sid]

Know

Worse thing on our trailing shoe is the bar that crimps the pipes to cut off the flow when you lift it up. On thick slurry this blocks. Currently using splashplate, but if we put it back on we will disconnect this and just let it dribble.

Wouldn't that be the same for a dribble bar ?