Drilling anyone?

bankrupt

Member
Location
EX17/20
has anything growing vernalised yet?
All seems a bit iffy to me.

According to Wiki, vernalization occurs when temperatures are between +5C and +10C, which we've already had plenty of.

"Typical vernalization temperatures are between 5 and 10 degrees Celsius (40 and 50 degrees Fahrenheit)."

Frankly, this is dangerous nonsense.

Time we had a bit more useful advice from the seed vendors, the breeders, and the HGCA.

 

ZXR17

Member
Location
South Dorset
I agree , it will be interesting to hear what the ideal vernalization temperatures are .
We often don't get any proper cold weather during the winter . This winter hasn't been below 0 yet . Soil temperature at about 4 inches was 9 degrees yesterday.
 

Lincsman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
All seems a bit iffy to me.

According to Wiki, vernalization occurs when temperatures are between +5C and +10C, which we've already had plenty of.

"Typical vernalization temperatures are between 5 and 10 degrees Celsius (40 and 50 degrees Fahrenheit)."

Frankly, this is dangerous nonsense.

Time we had a bit more useful advice from the seed vendors, the breeders, and the HGCA.

"Many monocarpic winter annuals and biennials, including some ecotypes of Arabidopsis thaliana[4] and winter cereals such as wheat, must go through a prolonged period of cold before flowering occurs. "

All you need to know now is how cold and how long is prolonged!
 

Wombat

Member
Location
East yorks
All seems a bit iffy to me.

According to Wiki, vernalization occurs when temperatures are between +5C and +10C, which we've already had plenty of.

"Typical vernalization temperatures are between 5 and 10 degrees Celsius (40 and 50 degrees Fahrenheit)."

Frankly, this is dangerous nonsense.

Time we had a bit more useful advice from the seed vendors, the breeders, and the HGCA.


makes interstign reading
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
Putting some Lilly in this week :woot: Or trying too... not sure if come summer I will thank or curse this weeks dry spell!! 4ac ploughed... 2 acre ploughed nice 2 more not so much
 

Phil P

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North West
Putting some Lilly in this week :woot: Or trying too... not sure if come summer I will thank or curse this weeks dry spell!! 4ac ploughed... 2 acre ploughed nice 2 more not so much
I always find Lili to be a bit of a late maturer, how do think it will get on been drilled so late? Or or is it early now🤔 I’m not sure 🤷‍♂️😂
only asking because I’ve some I may drill later this week if it stays dry🙄
 

Flat 10

Member
Location
Fen Edge
Will this be of some help to you, Flat 10?

https://ahdb.org.uk/rlarchive

Interesting to see that Claire was (End Feb) from 2004 until 2014 when, for no apparent reason, it became (Mid Feb). only to become (End Feb) again in 2015, only to become (Mid Feb) again in 2017, after which it was delisted.

No doubt the HGCA will somewhere have published an adequate explanation for all this potential confusion - as soon as I can find it I'll post it up here without delay.
Get in! End Feb :giggle:
Great work @bankrupt all very interesting
 

balerman

Member
Location
N Devon
This weeks alleged dry spell will be no use at all,given the forecast for the weekend.I know its only early Feb but heck its wet.Probably be cold and dry spring with a poor outlook for spring crops,perfect storm.
 

Fish

Member
Location
North yorkshire
Interestingly, I drilled an 8 meter headland in late April 2017( it had been to wet to drill earlier) with a cover crop mix which contained some wheat I found in an old seed bag, i just chucked it in to bulk the cover seed up, all the wheat headed, and we definitely didn't have any spring wheat seed on the farm.
What the variety was, I have no idea, but it might have been Skyfall, as we were growing Skyfall at that time, but the heads of the wheat had no awns, so who knows !

Then again this is North Yorkshire and cold weather in May/June is not exactly Unknown.
 

bert

Member
Location
n.yorks
Think I'm going to have ago this week, not too worried about vernalisation, February and March are often colder than December and January, and can get frosts into June. Nobody knows if its the right thing to do as no one can predict the weather for any length of time.

All i know is the seed is there in the shed and its edging our bets a bit as there is already a big percentage of spring barley to go in. And we are in no way inclined to get a good time for drilling that.

Was hoping to tine drill it in so it was a bit more weather proof and rougher to make it harder work for the crows, but looking at the variable seed beds I think its going to have to be the combi to make sure all seed is covered. The neighbours have drilled some so that will spread the crows a bit........ I hope
 
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JCfarmer

Member
Location
warks
We started ploughing again this afternoon, hard going in places. Want to turn it over to give it at least 24hrs to dry a little. Winds tomorrow should help!
It was a lovely drying day Saturday and ground was great to walk on when shooting but then it pisssed down that night!
Siskin going in, my gut feeling is now or never with storms next week!
At least if you can plough it, heavy rain won't sit around the seed for long.
 

Clive

Staff Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Lichfield
setting up for a big push starting Wednesday - Saturday / Sunday

weather beyond that is looking terrible so i think this is last chance for “winter” crops
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
I always find Lili to be a bit of a late maturer, how do think it will get on been drilled so late? Or or is it early now🤔 I’m not sure 🤷‍♂️😂
only asking because I’ve some I may drill later this week if it stays dry🙄
I’ve no idea but it’s bagged and dressed so it will surely mature sooner if I put it in the ground now rather than wait till October o_O Bean stubble turned over nicely. Just pulled out of a wheat stubble that from what I see in the dark isn’t going to make much of a seedbed, perhaps too eager there :poop::banghead:
 

4course

Member
Location
north yorks
risked it tonight , left roughed up some ploughing just a tad tacky and would have combied but if it keeps dry and blowing overnight will be the right move as my thinking is dont want it raining on a tacky seedbed if it rains or even showers it will be one of my worst ideas,, that we sew a couple of days ago would now almost stand rolling ( unbeliveable).The big decision ive to make now is wether to knock up the worst bit from last oct sowing and resow or drill through it ,problem is its patchy and small but almost enough to leave in the good bits.
 

4course

Member
Location
north yorks
I would respectfully suggest,:unsure: being a few days at least, pessimistic with those dates, as it's a pretty mild winter, and seems to be continuing that way, i get the feeling that average temps are up fair bit with regards to things like vernilisation :unsure:
im not so sure about soil temps being up at least not here ,think all the rain has cooled it down deeper as my snowdrops arnt flowering and they usually do in jan and daff leaves are only just getting above a couple of inches
 

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