Drilling rape

Gedd

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Livestock Farmer
My neighbour/contractor has got a sumo type machine and has asked if he can sow my rape normally plough and combination drill is his method ok
 

benny6910

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Arable Farmer
The only time I’ve had a issue with establishment after my sumo is when I got rained off from rolling it in after it had been seeded.I put the seed on after the rear packer as I fear that when I put it on in front of the packer too much seed gets buried too deep if you go to fast.
 

Flatlander

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lorette Manitoba
Intrested to know what seed rate you guys are using when just rolling in the seed. if its a wet week after I guess it catches ok. Seed rate,tgw and establishment % plants per sq ft if you’d be so kind. Thx
 

Chae1

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Intrested to know what seed rate you guys are using when just rolling in the seed. if its a wet week after I guess it catches ok. Seed rate,tgw and establishment % plants per sq ft if you’d be so kind. Thx

Im sowing osr at 0.8kg/acre today.🤷‍♂️

Rain forecast tomorrow afternoon so trying to get finished before it comes on.

Haven't harvested 2022 wosr yet!

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Location
North Notts
Cocked our seed rate up yesterday! Was aiming for 5kg /H but ended up with just over 4 average so a bit less on the middle of the field as I upped the rate on the headlands.

New to us drill and I think the metering wheel is bigger than it should be as the drill was calibrated before we left the yard.
3m Claydon with sulky hopper
 

benny6910

Member
Arable Farmer
Intrested to know what seed rate you guys are using when just rolling in the seed. if its a wet week after I guess it catches ok. Seed rate,tgw and establishment % plants per sq ft if you’d be so kind. Thx
I aim for 40-45 seeds square m early on then 50 if it’s later on hybrid seed
 
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Flatlander

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lorette Manitoba
I aim for 40-5 45 seeds square m early on then 50 if it’s later on hybrid seed
So roughly the same plant population as here. The 5.2 grams per thousand seeds would be larger than here on average. Last year some varieties were like spiders balls. 3.2 grams tgw if I remember right but new fir this year we could order seed by size. ABCD with the Ds being mainly for singluation seeding and As looked like screenings.
 

benny6910

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Arable Farmer
So roughly the same plant population as here. The 5.2 grams per thousand seeds would be larger than here on average. Last year some varieties were like spiders balls. 3.2 grams tgw if I remember right but new fir this year we could order seed by size. ABCD with the Ds being mainly for singluation seeding and As looked like screenings.
Seed here comes in 1.5m seed packs and the weight can be different so I just double check the weights of each bag
 

Flatlander

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lorette Manitoba
What if pigeons eat it? Flea beatles? Doesn't rain.

I can't understand how people have such precise seedrates when there's so many variables outwith our control that can change it completely.
Some here that d the math of seeds per pound and buy the smallest so cost per acre comes down. Then try to cut seed rate in half because they tell themselves that’s all the need. Then you get a bit of crusting some flea beetle and a late frost then they are complaining about lack of vigor in the seed and having to re drill. I seed at 4 for average seed size. Drill is an 1890 Deere that’s had various modifications. Overall I get good establishment if seeded at a steady 6 mph and 1 inch deep.
 

thorpe

Member
Cocked our seed rate up yesterday! Was aiming for 5kg /H but ended up with just over 4 average so a bit less on the middle of the field as I upped the rate on the headlands.

New to us drill and I think the metering wheel is bigger than it should be as the drill was calibrated before we left the yard.
3m Claydon with sulky hopper
it'll be fine, our horsch works the other way , were going to calibrate for 25% less than target this year.
 

Farmer Fin

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Arable Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
What if pigeons eat it? Flea beatles? Doesn't rain.

I can't understand how people have such precise seedrates when there's so many variables outwith our control that can change it completely.
I know but you have to start somewhere. OSR seed is to variable year on year to just keep sowing the same kg rate per ha. We had seed bags one year weighing over 10kg a bag. That’s a big difference to your 7.8 kg.
 

nxy

Member
Mixed Farmer
Somewhere I have a United Oilseeds growers guide from the late 70s. Recommended seed rate was 8 to 10 pounds to the acre (10Kg/ha) and that was back in the pre "double low/low biomass "days.

Here we drill 3-4Kg/ha if using certified seed or 5-6Kg/ha if using home saved and sometimes more if conditions are not right and just dropping on the floor in front of a roll..
 

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