Drilling spring crops into over wintered "weathered" cultivated land

[Mr Charisma]

With out treading on Rich Beach's redrilling thread which is I suppose is for those of you who were brave enough to wander into the fields with drills and seed .
This thread is for those of us who have land which was cultivated and were to from here

So before last night's 10 mm if rain I went and had a look at some of my fields ,
Yes they are wet but walked pretty well
These fields were trios and cultipressed all in the dry .
So I'm thinking that with a bit of patience I will go straight in with the drill , crops will be spring barley and linseed , drill will either be rapid or weaving tine drill , advantage of tine drill will be able to work on a very small headland if needs be

 

[Mr Charisma]

More pics

 

[MrNoo]

Yes, it'll be fine, that's all I tend to do this for my min tilled SB and SW. I do find that you do have to be patient getting on it in the Spring if you have wet spots, but I tend to drill with a Vaddy.
I did notice some of mine has slumped/capped so I may have to pull something through it, cultivator or suchlike.

 

[teslacoils]

Will be fine. That's how we usually do it. This year, the rolls maybe we're a step to far.

 

[ConanPB]

We have been using the same system here for spring drilling here for a few years with good results.
The cultipress leaves a really good 3D finish that takes the weather well. We lift the system disc out on the Rapid and just use the seeding coulters to avoid disturbing too much soil, works a treat.

 

[Mr Charisma]

Will be fine. That's how we usually do it. This year, the rolls maybe we're a step to far.

I thought that maybe the cultipress was a step to far this season but it has levelled the trioing out nicely and should drill nicely if it dries out

 

[Mr Charisma]

On this pic eagle eyed of you will notice that a pass has been missed with the cultipress , not much difference in walking between trio only or trio cultipress tbh , tho a spade may say diferently

 

[Fuzzy]

On this pic eagle eyed of you will notice that a pass has been missed with the cultipress , not much difference in walking between trio only or trio cultipress tbh , tho a spade may say diferently

Looks to be a good seedbed, will you try and put some wheat in or just go straight to spring crops ?

 

[Brisel]

That's a good point. Second wheat might pay better than spring barley this year if you can get it sown in the next 6 weeks. Only because of the price gap between barley and wheat.

 

[teslacoils]

I thought that maybe the cultipress was a step to far this season but it has levelled the trioing out nicely and should drill nicely if it dries out

Hindsight, as always. If I hadn't rolled then it would have been a bg nightmare, if what's grown had not succumbed to a preem on all those good spraying days we haven't had.

If a few bits which are nick nacked, but it's mostly going to be fine come April.

 

[bankrupt]

going to be fine come April.

 

[teslacoils]

Or may. Will reconsider mid May. Although fourty acres will probably not be fine.

 

[kc6475]

With out treading on Rich Beach's redrilling thread which is I suppose is for those of you who were brave enough to wander into the fields with drills and seed .
This thread is for those of us who have land which was cultivated and were to from here

So before last night's 10 mm if rain I went and had a look at some of my fields ,
Yes they are wet but walked pretty well
These fields were trios and cultipressed all in the dry .
So I'm thinking that with a bit of patience I will go straight in with the drill , crops will be spring barley and linseed , drill will either be rapid or weaving tine drill , advantage of tine drill will be able to work on a very small headland if needs be

I would definitely use the weaving not the vaddy, headlands will be far less compact and if it's as wet as ours underneath you wouldn't want the tyre packer paddling it down again, we have a combi here but don't fancy putting the power Harrow straight into it as the tines will stir and smear it so planning on running the spring tines through it to liven it up and get some air in then over it with the combi.

 

[Farma Parma]

With out treading on Rich Beach's redrilling thread which is I suppose is for those of you who were brave enough to wander into the fields with drills and seed .
This thread is for those of us who have land which was cultivated and were to from here

So before last night's 10 mm if rain I went and had a look at some of my fields ,
Yes they are wet but walked pretty well
These fields were trios and cultipressed all in the dry .
So I'm thinking that with a bit of patience I will go straight in with the drill , crops will be spring barley and linseed , drill will either be rapid or weaving tine drill , advantage of tine drill will be able to work on a very small headland if needs be

no wanting to think outside the box if that lands that easy to work why didnt you plough it. yes i know your gonna say it would have been drilled so wouldnt have mattered. But thats a lot of surface weeds you have there? 95% of them wouldnt been growing if that land had been ploughed thats all.
Cant see why you cant drill straight into that tho, its gonna take sum clever agchems to clear it up but poss drilling it will knock a lot out?
Patience for it drying out plenty will be the issue.

 

[Mr Charisma]

Looks to be a good seedbed, will you try and put some wheat in or just go straight to spring crops ?

If the chance arrives I will plant winter wheat especially as I have skyfalll seed

 

[Brisel]

3 litres of glyphosate pre drilling will clear that lot up @Mr Charisma

What does it look like underneath? I've never failed to be impressed by the benefits of working heavy land early while it is still dry and letting nature do the final cultivations for you over winter

 

[Mr Charisma]

no wanting to think outside the box if that lands that easy to work why didnt you plough it. yes i know your gonna say it would have been drilled so wouldnt have mattered. But thats a lot of surface weeds you have there? 95% of them wouldnt been growing if that land had been ploughed thats all.
Cant see why you cant drill straight into that tho, its gonna take sum clever agchems to clear it up but poss drilling it will knock a lot out?
Patience for it drying out plenty will be the issue.

We don't plough much now and I think we are better of for it, although that ground looks like it's going to fall to pieces I can assure you that is because of the weather that it has had, all of our fields have red marl in them, never ploughs nicely and slugs used to play havoc always stripping out the marl areas. Since we have been trioing we haven't really had any slug issues tho I believe it could have been different this year,

 

[Mr Charisma]

I would definitely use the weaving not the vaddy, headlands will be far less compact and if it's as wet as ours underneath you wouldn't want the tyre packer paddling it down again, we have a combi here but don't fancy putting the power Harrow straight into it as the tines will stir and smear it so planning on running the spring tines through it to liven it up and get some air in then over it with the combi.

I can certainly see the spring cereals going in with weaving but I will want to put linseed in with the vaddy.
Brought a combi drill for 2012, possibly the worst money I have ever spent

 

[Brisel]

Ploughing heavy land for spring cropping needs to be done well and early IMO. Pull the tops off the furrows so you don't need to risk bringing up unweathered clods as you level the ground up at drilling time.

 

[teslacoils]

Ploughing heavy land for spring cropping needs to be done well and early IMO. Pull the tops off the furrows so you don't need to risk bringing up unweathered clods as you level the ground up at drilling time.

I packed up with the plough after one headland. Too hard, I said. And it was. That was 16th September........

.....it's not hard now.