Drought Help

[ajcc]

@Forage Trader you add an interesting angle to most conversations hereabouts, you got opinions and your dad before you often get his opinions into the conversation. Don’t take the ump....walter p annoys us more but anyone who isn’t a farmer pure and simple will get extra flak.
FT I believe tries to help his TFF family...just right now forage is a bloody sore point/sensitive job to trade in.

 

[Al R]

I'm only in Tregaron and it did not start raining until about 6pm last night. Rained heavy over night until about 9am this mornign with a dry sunny afternoon.

10mm yesterday and then 8mm this morning, sunny afternoon but it still wasn’t dry enough to cut the lawn tonight!

 

[M-J-G]

Yes but not when forage trader said that.
I used to bale loads of straw, hay and silage to sell, and i often had itfor years.
I bailed a lot of folk out in spring 13.

That post was from June 14.

Like you, I helped out many in spring 13 and 14, the latter which followed a pretty severe drought. IMO a more severe one than this year for this immediate area.

There has of course been a surplus since, and that is a good thing, but the surplus was somewhat frowned upon at that time, and afterwards people went back to being offered insulting prices, of well below COP for silage and haylage.
Yet now the same people who talked the job down for years are calling on those with surplus to bale it especially so that they can feed and trade it.

Their memories may be short, but not everyone's are.

I'll stay loyal to those who are loyal to me. Not those who are your friend when they need something, and offer you crap money in a couple of years time when there is plenty again.

 

[joe soapy]

sorry
i had to clear a paddock of italian ryegrass to plant wild bird cover
cut and baled 20th may
dairy man came (in the middle of the height of the drought)and said it wasnt good enough for his cows
so i give up
they wont pay enough to cover my costs
or wont pay at all
then it wont be good enough
i have given up making silage -forever
giving €5 notes along with each bale leaving the yard
i have a photo of the ryegrass on my phone but i typing this on me computer -i c if i can upload the photo.
palm kernal is the preferred feed on large dairy herds
while i cant make a return from my after grass
last year sheep grazed some of it
and most i left waving all winter

once their eyes are level with the belly button its very difficult to see or hear

looks a good field of grass by the way

 

[joe soapy]

with farm to farm stuff, if somebody offers something, i ask price, then a simple yes/no answer. cant be doing with haggling
could be hay or land

 

[Derrick Hughes]

with farm to farm stuff, if somebody offers something, i ask price, then a simple yes/no answer. cant be doing with haggling
could be hay or land

A profesional person will give you his best price straight off . I cant be doing with those who ask what will you pay me

 

[M-J-G]

Last year every one said straw was short . I kept my wagons loaded all winter loading 60 trucks some weeks all winter long and don't believe I kept any of my custimers short
And it's all due to those arable farmers who have stood by and supported me over these years
Pay them a fair price don't quibble over a few quid they will look after you through thick and thin

And don't come on here slagging peolpe of over some post they have no idea what context it was written in 4 years ago

Where in my opening post did I say any one had to sell to it to me or I would anyway bennefit. It was mearly to ecourage farmers to bale forage to sell on to anyone they like

Goodnight and best of luck to you

This rubbish is not what the forum is about. you have let the place down tonight

Like many dealers, you change your tune when it suits you.

You were telling of the thousands of bales that you saw sold at rubbish money in June this year and how much of a waste of time it is to bale silage to sell.

It's worth keeping in mind that if you talk prices down for long enough, product might not be there when you need it.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Like many dealers, you change your tune when it suits you.

You were telling of the thousands of bales that you saw sold at rubbish money in June this year and how much of a waste of time it is to bale silage to sell.

It's worth keeping in mind that if you talk prices down for long enough, product might not be there when you need it.

I give in good night

 

[Beowulf]

Just to set the record straight with everyone.i talk to 30 to 40 straw trader and farmers a week up and down the country as well as merchants
There losding prices along with mine I post on here

I am an quite openenly telling people my loading prices nothing to hide
I posted last night that the avarage selling price for these was in the 60s per ton some a bit cheaper

By doing this I am accused of running the price down

I then said that to a few who asked that in my opinion it was a wise time to buy
I then got accused of cousing panic

You cant win

Take a deep breath and step back, it's not worth getting irate or stressed about regardless of which side of the right/wrong divide you are on.

If you lot think this forum is bitchy you should see one of the Italian classic car forums I post on. A horses head on your pillow is just a mild warning....

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Take a deep breath and step back, it's not worth getting irate or stressed about regardless of which side of the right/wrong divide you are on.

If you lot think this forum is bitchy you should see one of the Italian classic car forums I post on. A horses head on your pillow is just a mild warning....

No need for it on here.
I don't know what's happened to the place you can't post anything without somone having a go and it's not just me it's all over the place. I used to come on here to get away from that bitchy hay and straw page on Facebook I now go back there to get some relief

 

[renewablejohn]

U

ten acres of what

meadow hay

 

[glasshouse]

meadow hay

and nobody wants it?

 

[jpd]

once their eyes are level with the belly button its very difficult to see or hear

looks a good field of grass by the way

thanks
some people you just cant help
so you give up trying

 

[glasshouse]

meadow hay

w

sorry
i had to clear a paddock of italian ryegrass to plant wild bird cover
cut and baled 20th may
dairy man came (in the middle of the height of the drought)and said it wasnt good enough for his cows
so i give up
they wont pay enough to cover my costs
or wont pay at all
then it wont be good enough
i have given up making silage -forever
giving €5 notes along with each bale leaving the yard
i have a photo of the ryegrass on my phone but i typing this on me computer -i c if i can upload the photo.
palm kernal is the preferred feed on large dairy herds
while i cant make a return from my after grass
last year sheep grazed some of it
and most i left waving all winter

where?

 

[jpd]

i,m in the very middle of ireland
west leinster
why?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

i,m in the very middle of ireland
west leinster
why?

How's it looking there now is the grass coming back

 

[glasshouse]

Scottish govt has just announced sub loans will go out early in october

 

[jpd]

How's it looking there now is the grass coming back[/QUOTE
The reason I cut so early was in order to sow a mixture of oats and linseed known as wild bird cover. It got some moisture after it was sown, enough to germinate it and get it going. Normally I, D let grass like that grow another week but the rules state the crop has to be in by the end of May.

 

[7610 super q]

That post was from June 14.

Like you, I helped out many in spring 13 and 14, the latter which followed a pretty severe drought. IMO a more severe one than this year for this immediate area.

There has of course been a surplus since, and that is a good thing, but the surplus was somewhat frowned upon at that time, and afterwards people went back to being offered insulting prices, of well below COP for silage and haylage.
Yet now the same people who talked the job down for years are calling on those with surplus to bale it especially so that they can feed and trade it.

Their memories may be short, but not everyone's are.

I'll stay loyal to those who are loyal to me. Not those who are your friend when they need something, and offer you crap money in a couple of years time when there is plenty again.

Top post that. Should be made a sticky on here.

 

[7610 super q]

and nobody wants it?

Too small. Big dairy farmers turn their noses up at small amounts. It's 1000 bales or 100 acres.....or nothing. They're not smart enough to work out that 10 lots of 10 acres = 100 acres.