Drought Help

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Too small. Big dairy farmers turn their noses up at small amounts. It's 1000 bales or 100 acres.....or nothing. They're not smart enough to work out that 10 lots of 10 acres = 100 acres.

Thats exactly the case. Not worth getting the mower out for 10 acres. Dont have the kit as contractor does all there silage in a day. Normal excuses I hear.
 

Ashtree

Member
How's it looking there now is the grass coming back

I went away for a break 10 days ago, leaving 10 acres of silage ground fertilised a month previous. It was green and not much more than ankle height. I got back yesterday to a pretty much full crop well ready to cut. Getting plenty heavy showers and soil temps well up. Serious growth now.
Old folks always claimed every year produces a more or less equal amount of grass averaged over the year.
Im on west coast.
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
I went away for a break 10 days ago, leaving 10 acres of silage ground fertilised a month previous. It was green and not much more than ankle height. I got back yesterday to a pretty much full crop well ready to cut. Getting plenty heavy showers and soil temps well up. Serious growth now.
Old folks always claimed every year produces a more or less equal amount of grass averaged over the year.
Im on west coast.
Would you then think the panic in Ireland is calming down , or perhaps delayed until later in the winter.
 

Ashtree

Member
Would you then think the panic in Ireland is calming down , or perhaps delayed until later in the winter.

My sense is that there is enough time now that rain has arrived, to do enough to substantially reduce the forage deficite. Slurry / chem nitrogen spreading window has also been extended to help folks.
There will be a shortage, but hopefully not a full blown crisis.
 

Still Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
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Whos's this just now ?
Hope ok
 

jpd

Member
Location
rep of irl
Why has matk

I dont understand why market for round silage bales has gone
me neither
i thought id be swanning in a Ferrari selling al l the larger herds extra silage and hay.
it appears that diet feeders with straw as roughage and fodderbeet,maize or meals added to it is the way the larger herds are feeding.
i was losing money making and selling silage
so i still make hay for sale
but each year i am ploughing out grass for barley.
plenty of demand for straw
esp this year, with straw returns of 2 round 4 x 4 per acre in places.
the really large outfits got lorry loads of palm kernal during the drought.my sources tell me that lucerne from holland is being imported.
a rising tide lifting all boats?
the milk tide certainly isnt lifting mine
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
I seriously thought I was on to a winner with my hay this year too. It wasn't long before the doom mongers talked about endless fields of hay being baled, " Fields that haven't seen a mower in 20 years " . Oh dear thinks I. Then we hear of the " fodder crisis ", Oh well, stick an add on FB then. Nothing. Zilch. f**k all. Did manage to sell it eventually, but won't be buying that Range Rover after all......

I blame social media. In the past it was all about what happens locally, Now the forums and FB pages are awash with " experts " who waffle on about gluts/ price collapses / shortages / exports to Brazil / imports from Poland / never seen so much baled / haven't seen many wagons passing my house etc, etc........
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
I seriously thought I was on to a winner with my hay this year too. It wasn't long before the doom mongers talked about endless fields of hay being baled, " Fields that haven't seen a mower in 20 years " . Oh dear thinks I. Then we hear of the " fodder crisis ", Oh well, stick an add on FB then. Nothing. Zilch. fudge all. Did manage to sell it eventually, but won't be buying that Range Rover after all......

I blame social media. In the past it was all about what happens locally, Now the forums and FB pages are awash with " experts " who waffle on about gluts/ price collapses / shortages / exports to Brazil / imports from Poland / never seen so much baled / haven't seen many wagons passing my house etc, etc........

Bring it here I'll sell it for you .
 

jpd

Member
Location
rep of irl
I seriously thought I was on to a winner with my hay this year too. It wasn't long before the doom mongers talked about endless fields of hay being baled, " Fields that haven't seen a mower in 20 years " . Oh dear thinks I. Then we hear of the " fodder crisis ", Oh well, stick an add on FB then. Nothing. Zilch. fudge all. Did manage to sell it eventually, but won't be buying that Range Rover after all......

I blame social media. In the past it was all about what happens locally, Now the forums and FB pages are awash with " experts " who waffle on about gluts/ price collapses / shortages / exports to Brazil / imports from Poland / never seen so much baled / haven't seen many wagons passing my house etc, etc........
met a guy today that has bought hay from me in the past,
and sells some of his own
claims to have got€30 off the field for 4 x 4;s this summer
 

jpd

Member
Location
rep of irl
i think its all location dependant
the storeman in the local dealer
in the middle of a competitive area
gets €15 per bale of round silage leaving the field
and this was before the drought
when i asked €12 instead of €10
a couple of years ago
after spending a fortune on fert and lime-with me mowing it
didnt even tell me to f off
just said nothing ,got in his car and drove off
i had fun that summer makin hay out of that
 
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