Dry Eyes, Increased Blinking & Facial Tics

[Exfarmer]

D90 and Hypoclorite are disinfectants based on chlorine , another class of cleaning agents. They should not normally be mixed except under strictly controlled conditions approved by the manufacturers. Wrongly mixing strong disinfectants and other bleaches may result in the release of chlorine which is extremely toxic.
Fairly certainly using these chemicals in unapproved ways, will result in irritation and easily cause permanent eye damage

 

[DrWazzock]

Air conditioning tends to dry the air out. The cooler unit causes the water in the air to condense and you see it running out of a pipe somewhere. Cold dry frosty weather also dries the air as it reduces the airs water holding capacity. When that dry cold air gets into your home and gets heated up it gets even drier.

A humidifier can help, as can avoiding air conditioning or turning the heating too high.

Drink plenty of fluids and eat oily foods.

If that doesn't help it's something more complicated and best seek medical attention.

 

[milkloss]

D90 and Hypoclorite are disinfectants based on chlorine , another class of cleaning agents. They should not normally be mixed except under strictly controlled conditions approved by the manufacturers. Wrongly mixing strong disinfectants and other bleaches may result in the release of chlorine which is extremely toxic.
Fairly certainly using these chemicals in unapproved ways, will result in irritation and easily cause permanent eye damage

No never mixed. Hypo rinse always in a rinsed trough and not circulated with d90. Waste rinse/washwater expelled away from operator as well.

Still got cruddy eyes over it though.

 

[Man & Boy]

The suspected trace elements of Lye (caustic soda) remaining in soap causing nerve damage?:

Several years back many people were shocked to learn that a well-known baby shampoo contained toxic chemicals like formaldehyde and dioxane. In response to consumer concerns, this firm of manufacturers agreed to remove these chemicals from their products. This company and others produce soap by the millions of tonnes. Soap is made from a dangerous chemical called lye, it is better known as caustic soda and is murder on the skin. It can burn, cause blindness, and even cause death if ingested. Soap manufacturers claim that the chemical processes used to make soap render the lye harmless and it is removed, but can they be 100% certain about this, and do albeit trace elements remain?

(Question) If minute trace elements of lye exist in soap is this what causes the stinging and burning sensation we get when soap suds goes in our eyes? My own facial-nerve damage was diagnosed in 1992, during the last 15 years I have had frequent hospital treatment for it with no improvement whatsoever, yet, when I stopped using soap or allowing soap suds to go into my eyes my hemifacial spasms, tics, and eye-squinting gradually decreased and have now virtually stopped, I was discharged by the hospital this week 30 November, 2017, as a patient who no longer needed further treatment? Go figure?

 

[Exfarmer]

I thought you were blaming your problems on Sodium Laurel Sulphate, a detergent you should make up your mind!
All chemicals are dangerous but you cannot live without chemicals, remember the stomach produces pure hydrochloric acid , which will strip your skin very quickly

 

[Man & Boy]

@ ex-farmer: You may remember a few posts back you wrote this: One point you mention, reveals ignorance of soap, hard soap is soap, it is not detergent. I was speaking about the additives soap contains and had assumed that everyone knew that no soap company offered the type of pure soap you describe. I did find this article on the web about soap safety concerns. Quote: In a shocking revelation, everyday products like toothpaste, soaps and cosmetics were found to contain chemicals that can cause cancer, claims a study by an Indian research institute, and that’s not all, the report also suggests that these products contain chemicals that may cause several other diseases.

The list of additives included: Triclosan. An antifungal and antibacterial agent. Parabens: Used for its anti-bactericidal and fungicidal properties, this group of chemicals also penetrate into the skin easily and gets absorbed into the body through the skin, blood and digestive system. Phthalates: termed harmful to the liver, teratogenic (harms the development of a foetus), and carcinogenic.Triclocarbon: It can harm patients with ER-positive breast cancer. Di-Ethanolamine: Used to create the creamy texture or foam in products like soaps and shampoos, it causes mild to moderate irritation in the eye, skin, throat and nose.
It can form nitrosodiethanolamine, an extremely potent carcinogen, So was my eye problems caused by Di-Ethanolamine, and my stopping it explains my improved health.Others have said some soaps cause dry skin, if that's the case then surely it can cause dry eyes and nerve damage over a use period of many years+ plus.

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[Exfarmer]

@ ex-farmer: You may remember a few posts back you wrote this: One point you mention, reveals ignorance of soap, hard soap is soap, it is not detergent. I was speaking about the additives soap contains and had assumed that everyone knew that no soap company offered the type of pure soap you describe. I did find this article on the web about soap safety concerns. Quote: In a shocking revelation, everyday products like toothpaste, soaps and cosmetics were found to contain chemicals that can cause cancer, claims a study by an Indian research institute, and that’s not all, the report also suggests that these products contain chemicals that may cause several other diseases.

The list of additives included: Triclosan. An antifungal and antibacterial agent. Parabens: Used for its anti-bactericidal and fungicidal properties, this group of chemicals also penetrate into the skin easily and gets absorbed into the body through the skin, blood and digestive system. Phthalates: termed harmful to the liver, teratogenic (harms the development of a foetus), and carcinogenic.Triclocarbon: It can harm patients with ER-positive breast cancer. Di-Ethanolamine: Used to create the creamy texture or foam in products like soaps and shampoos, it causes mild to moderate irritation in the eye, skin, throat and nose.
It can form nitrosodiethanolamine, an extremely potent carcinogen, So was my eye problems caused by Di-Ethanolamine, and my stopping it explains my improved health.Others have said some soaps cause dry skin, if that's the case then surely it can cause dry eyes and nerve damage over a use period of many years+ plus.

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You are again confusing soap and what some manufacturers pass off as soap, which are detergents
Admittedly some soap manufacturers do offer products with triclosan, an antiseptic, to buyers who require products with that property.
There are others who offer perfumed soaps, but soap is soap and there are plenty of suppliers offering pure soap.

 

[jojo]

I have just found out arfter 6 years of being misdiagnosed that I actually have thygesons keratitis very hard to diagnose and quite rare I’m told anyone als have this or no anything about it ?

 

[Man & Boy]

To Jo Jo above: I also was diagnosed with Keratitus, this got me searching on Google for further information and of course seeking possible cures, I lived in hope of a cure for years, so I now claims perhaps its best to say that there is no cure, no magic tablets and it would assist everyone including mostly NEWBIE patient sufferers if the medical profession admitted it. I'm now cured not because of swallowing anything prescribed but by making sure no soap or detergent or chemicals went in my eyes. I no longer wash and scrub my face the old fashioned rub-a dub dub-way, but wipe it clean gently with a damp sponge making sure I do not go within 3 inches of my eye sockets.

What ever chemical or additive is in soap acts as a trigger for it, stop soap going in eyes and the problems plummet. I might still have the condition hidden away in my system (I probably do) but without the daily soap -in-eyes trigger-point its inactive and sympton free. A strange fact: I had it for 20 years, so I am well used to being ill from it, classed as disabled. And I actually miss it, it was a part of me I'd grown so used to, I had to put up with it.

During the last 12 months people I have not seen for a few years tell me how well I look and how different I am without it. I am certain that if I go back to washing my hair and face using lots of soap including strong soaps it will return. My diagnosis also took years to diagnose and was made by Consultants in a leading Eye Hospital.

 

[jojo]

To Jo Jo above: I also was diagnosed with Keratitus, this got me searching on Google for further information and of course seeking possible cures, I lived in hope of a cure for years, so I now claims perhaps its best to say that there is no cure, no magic tablets and it would assist everyone including mostly NEWBIE patient sufferers if the medical profession admitted it. I'm now cured not because of swallowing anything prescribed but by making sure no soap or detergent or chemicals went in my eyes. I no longer wash and scrub my face the old fashioned rub-a dub dub-way, but wipe it clean gently with a damp sponge making sure I do not go within 3 inches of my eye sockets.

What ever chemical or additive is in soap acts as a trigger for it, stop soap going in eyes and the problems plummet. I might still have the condition hidden away in my system (I probably do) but without the daily soap -in-eyes trigger-point its inactive and sympton free. A strange fact: I had it for 20 years, so I am well used to being ill from it, classed as disabled. And I actually miss it, it was a part of me I'd grown so used to, I had to put up with it.

During the last 12 months people I have not seen for a few years tell me how well I look and how different I am without it. I am certain that if I go back to washing my hair and face using lots of soap including strong soaps it will return. My diagnosis also took years to diagnose and was made by Consultants in a leading Eye Hospital.

Hi thanks for the reply I don’t really get much soap in my eyes but do work with a lot of chemicals on a daily basis so it could be that I guess I will try to avoid them then as much as possible and hope it helps I’m pleased ur feeling better thanks for ur help

 

[Man & Boy]

CHEMICALS WE WORK WITH: It amazes me how and why so many workers are so flippant about their own health and safety when handling or working with chemicals. Some 55 years ago my first experience of this was with a company called Cork Insulation and Asbestos Ltd (closed in the 1970s) The staff employed there knew about the dangers and when informally discussing the health dangers with them you'd be surprised at how many remarked "Well when you've got to go - You've got to go." The thought that their health was being endangered was foreign to them. I noticed a few of the managers at this firm never ventured into certain buildings and followed their example.

Another deadly trade is Paint Spraying, I know men who refuse to wear an mask and gloves when spraying cars and eat their lunch with wet paint-grimed hands. Another obvious subject of great concern is Pesticide Spraying, from what I have seen insufficient precautions are taken. In my view the protective-suits the Army are wearing in Salisbury this week following the attempted killing of a Russian traitor with a nerve-gas spray should be copied and worn by anyone handling pesticides. We have all seen men spraying roadsides and verges without a face mask on, or wearing waterproof chem-suits and helmet/visors and suspect for this reason that one day knapsack sprayers will be banned. I liken the human body to a plant, a growing plant and chemical attack causes long time harm and damage. Handling soaps, chemicals and paints on a daily basis is an health risk that cannot be ignored.