Duncan Ag : Alternative New Zealand direct drill.

[Dian Landman]

Cant fault my Duncan planter. Awesome picece of kit.

 

[Tractor tom7480]

That looks pretty mighty. What's the lead time like at the moment?

Well, that depends on what stock I carry .... if I have the machine you need, obviously that Best But if not it’s a minimum of 8 weeks but could be a little over that either..

 

[Tractor tom7480]

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[E_B]

Well, that depends on what stock I carry .... if I have the machine you need, obviously that Best But if not it’s a minimum of 8 weeks but could be a little over that either..

DD30 looks the absolute business. But on further investigation, alas perhaps out of budget.

 

[Tractor tom7480]

Not so.... when it comes todisc drills, it’s excellent value for money !

 

[Farmer Roy]

TBH - they are pretty fûcked - no trash clearance at all, don’t really work if you are trying to retain as much ground cover as possible
Which IS the point of zero till after all



isn’t it ? ? ?

 

[Tractor tom7480]

TBH - they are pretty fûcked - no trash clearance at all, don’t really work if you are trying to retain as much ground cover as possible
Which IS the point of zero till after all



isn’t it ? ? ?

Do you use one ? Which model ? DD30 will drill into standing green covers & chopped straw & does it well .... so I don’t know what u mean ?

 

[benferg]

Do you use one ? Which model ? DD30 will drill into standing green covers & chopped straw & does it well .... so I don’t know what u mean ?

the problem with the dd30 is that it doesn’t control depth very well in undulating terrain. Slot closure the horrible problem for many people is also an issue in certain soil types.
Clay soils are the Achilles heel for most drills

At the end of the day it was built to fit into a certain price in the market and does that very well. There are machines better than it, but you have to pay for it.

 

[Tractor tom7480]

We are on heavy & wet clay soils up here .. & yes slot closure is the biggest issue with all disc drills with press wheels in the wrong conditions .... no exceptions. You can pay dearer for other makes & gain very little Benefit. So why spend ??
To direct drill successfully you have to know the machine, the farm & the weather regardless of brand.
If the slot looks to be open a lot , why ?? Ring roll after drilling if it’s dry enough, if it’s not well maybe you shouldn’t be drilling either?
if the ground is uneven, why ? Trafficking... ? Or contours ? Well light run off a speed disc would help a lot .. in both cases.
That would be my approach ... rather than shelling out considerably more dollars for a brand you’d only later find that u still hadn’t gotten the “ perfect” machine .. just saying

 

[Kiwi Pete]

the problem with the dd30 is that it doesn’t control depth very well in undulating terrain. Slot closure the horrible problem for many people is also an issue in certain soil types.
Clay soils are the Achilles heel for most drills

At the end of the day it was built to fit into a certain price in the market and does that very well. There are machines better than it, but you have to pay for it.

You pay a fair bit extra for a bit better, and a lot more than that for a bit better again

almost as bad as collecting shotguns

Good machines for the price, especially into tame country. Would be a great setup if they made a model with better trash clearance via individual units with wider spacings, but then you're getting into $$$$, and you'd just buy an Allen

 

[benferg]

We are on heavy & wet clay soils up here .. & yes slot closure is the biggest issue with all disc drills with press wheels in the wrong conditions .... no exceptions. You can pay dearer for other makes & gain very little Benefit. So why spend ??
To direct drill successfully you have to know the machine, the farm & the weather regardless of brand.
If the slot looks to be open a lot , why ?? Ring roll after drilling if it’s dry enough, if it’s not well maybe you shouldn’t be drilling either?
if the ground is uneven, why ? Trafficking... ? Or contours ? Well light run off a speed disc would help a lot .. in both cases.
That would be my approach ... rather than shelling out considerably more dollars for a brand you’d only later find that u still hadn’t gotten the “ perfect” machine .. just saying

The most important thing is to do research and demo before you buy.

We run two different brand of direct drill and I’m looking at a third to cover our bases better.
As for contour, you assume that smoothing is an option sometimes when it isn’t, this is why the cross slot has not been replaced in nz in some places as it does what other brands can’t come close to.
As for drilling conditions, sadly the weather and the farmer doesn’t always let people drill into perfect conditions, we have to make the best of what we are presented with.

At the end of the day we are looking for the machine/s that give the best results for the conditions that are present. Price comes into the equation but only to a degree. After all you generally pay for what you get.

 

[benferg]

You pay a fair bit extra for a bit better, and a lot more than that for a bit better again

almost as bad as collecting shotguns

Good machines for the price, especially into tame country. Would be a great setup if they made a model with better trash clearance via individual units with wider spacings, but then you're getting into $$$$, and you'd just buy an Allen

We have an Allen drill, it’s good but not amazing. Just wish we could close the slot better in clay soils. Sadly waiting till the ground dries out more isn’t always an option.

i swear I collect machinery like you collect shotguns

 

[Kiwi Pete]

We have an Allen drill, it’s good but not amazing. Just wish we could close the slot better in clay soils. Sadly waiting till the ground dries out more isn’t always an option.

i swear I collect machinery like you collect shotguns

Our bush soils down here are really springy, especially after 100 years in "bush burn mix" which means about a (tight) ten-inch thatch layer over clay. Add rocks to taste.

Slots generally look like a yawning hippopotamus, but I suppose it gets the slugbait down in there

 

[Tractor tom7480]

There is no silver bullet !
And no matter what machine a fella had there’d be something to complain about !
So,.... just “crack on!”
mine works great for me anyways !

 

[benferg]

Our bush soils down here are really springy, especially after 100 years in "bush burn mix" which means about a (tight) ten-inch thatch layer over clay. Add rocks to taste.

Slots generally look like a yawning hippopotamus, but I suppose it gets the slugbait down in there

we have volcanic rock/boulders scattered through some of the hill country pdks. They aren’t very forgiving .
Have recently sprayed 4 blocks. They will be summer fallowed and then sprayed again prior to drilling into a short term grass with some rape.

 

[JD-Kid]

think the dd30 was made to take on the John shearer disc drill in Aussie that runs a 2 disc set up
it's a simple drill really not many moveing parts on it would be better on a paralagram set up with depth /press wheels but then more moveing parts