Dutch openers

[Pingu]

Anyone got any pics of the results?

DD or into stale seedbeds?

 

[Andrew K]

DD would be good please.

 

[Wheatland]

The first picture is Diego direct into maize stubble and rolled after

The second is osr stubble that's had a very shallow pass with a carrier to chit volunteers, drilled and rolled. Both using 5" coulter on a Sprinter

 

[Pingu]

DD would be good please.

Sadly only into stale seedbeds at the mo but hope to try it straight into covers in spring

 

[RBM]

This is no-till Spring barley direct in to some nasty heavy ground after covers from April this year.

 

[Andrew K]

This is no-till Spring barley direct in to some nasty heavy ground after covers from April this year.

Looks good Russ, take it thats the 2.5" point you used?

 

[RBM]

Looks good Russ, take it thats the 2.5" point you used?

Yes it was, we switched between the 5 & 2.5" this Autumn for different situations, but seed placement is A1 with them.

 

[Andrew K]

When do you head for the 5" points in preference to 2.5" Russ?

 

[Neddy flanders]

Is this a modern sprinter or old CO with weaker tines?

 

[Fuzzy]

We put the Dutch openers on our sprinter this year, direct drilled all the spring barley with good results and have direct drilled a lot of osr, wheat and covers with it this Autumn. Run the 2.5 & 5" points, I prefer the 2.5" as it disturbs much less, the gap between plant stands comes down to 18cm in the end so not quite as wide as it could be. Transformed the drill & allowing us to convert to no-till at a relatively low cost with what we've got.

Do you mind me asking what it cost to convert the drill ? PM if you prefer .

 

[RBM]

When do you head for the 5" points in preference to 2.5" Russ?

Hi Andrew, prefer the narrower ones for lower disturbance and spring drilling, the 5" ones work well in most situations, just mindful that they do disrupt a bit more.

 

[Warp Land Farmer]

Are the Matcalf's low disturbance much different to these Dutch openers?

 

[Green oak]

Are the Matcalf's low disturbance much different to these Dutch openers?

Different animal the Metcalfes. 12mm tines over 6 metres. This was spring barley.

 

[solo]

Do you mind me asking what it cost to convert the drill ? PM if you prefer .

Went to Midland Machinery show on Thursday and Pan Anglia had the dutch coulters for sale at £65 each for the leg and £65 for the 5" coulter. Can't remember how much the 2" coulters were but were similarly priced.

 

[T Hectares]

Went to Midland Machinery show on Thursday and Pan Anglia had the dutch coulters for sale at £65 each for the leg and £65 for the 5" coulter. Can't remember how much the 2" coulters were but were similarly priced.

Do you need any kind of adaptor to fit Dutches on or do they fit straight on the existing leg ??

I had been looking at the Borgault opener Brocks are selling, but they are more expensive than that..

 

[T Hectares]

Had Dutch openers for 2 autumns now. Use 5 inch paired for cereals and cover crops, drilled around 1800 acres with a set on wearing ground. Massive reduction in hp requirement and creates less banding than duets. Watch depth control on different soils as can sometimes put in deeper than you think. Have direct drilled all my covers straight into stubble with good results. 1 inch point good for d drilled beans though outlets are small enough for bridging of seed.
Overall impressed with them. Pan anglia seem to offer more than sumo on choice and better prices.

How much easier to pull is the drill on 5" Dutches V duetts ??

 

[RTK Farmer]

Do you need any kind of adaptor to fit Dutches on or do they fit straight on the existing leg ??..

The point mounting piece had 16mm holes but my older co4 had 12mm holes in legs and bolts so had to get some sleeves turned to adapt the holes down to 12mm.

 

[solo]

Do you need any kind of adaptor to fit Dutches on or do they fit straight on the existing leg ??

I had been looking at the Borgault opener Brocks are selling, but they are more expensive than that..

The leg adapter part I quoted at £65 bolts onto the sprinter leg then the point bolts onto that. It should be available to view on the pan anglia website.

 

[Wheatland]

I'm pretty sure when I bought mine a couple of years ago the leg adapter part was £43 ish each. The 5' coulter were near £100 each at the time when Sumo were the sole importer. That's now changed and I know the the coulters can be bought for less but maybe Sumo can supply the adapter cheaper still? When I replace mine, I will be having the open backed version as the paired row coulter can block easily if conditions are borderline wet.

 

[Chemical nick]

How much easier to pull is the drill on 5" Dutches V duetts ??

On our soil it used to be 50 to 60 hp per m on the old duets. Now I reckon 40hp per m would be comfortable in wet conditions.