Dutch Openers

[ajd132]

@adj132 How are you getting on with all of the above after a couple of seasons? Looking to do the same, Cotswold brash being the soil type!! Many thanks.

Really well, I've just worn out the first set on 5 inches they go on forever. Much cheaper to run and way less bothersome maintainence like with the duetts

 

[tjhooker]

Really well, I've just worn out the first set on 5 inches they go on forever. Much cheaper to run and way less bothersome maintainence like with the duetts

Thanks @ajd132, really helpful! So you stay on 5" for OSR, wheat and beans? Would reducing to 2.5" for OSR reduce soil movement, aiding blackgrass management, without compromising establishment? Cheers

 

[binbusy]

Why do people worry about moving to much soil for osr crops and not for wheat?
You want to get that blackgrass growing in the osr as you have more ways of killing it.
Wheats different altogether I know.

 

[marks]

Has anyone tried direct drilling wheat with 1 inch point ,thought they might move less soil than the 5 inch point but not sure if spacing would be to wide

 

[dirty harry]

To give you an idea here’s some spring wheat drilled with 2” Dutch after 3 weeks....

 

[ajd132]

Has anyone tried direct drilling wheat with 1 inch point ,thought they might move less soil than the 5 inch point but not sure if spacing would be to wide

I have and it was too wide on my drill (30cm)

 

[Warnesworth]

Has anyone tried direct drilling wheat with 1 inch point ,thought they might move less soil than the 5 inch point but not sure if spacing would be to wide

It'll be fine on 250mm spacing, but as @ajd132 says above at 300mm it's probably a bit wide.

 

[Longneck]

I’ve drilled cereals direct with mine on metcalfe points and I find the 250mm rows too wide. It didn’t yield as well as conventional and is more blackgrass in the rows.

 

[Shropshire Farmer]

My sprinter is 300mm row spacing what Dutch would you use for cereals

 

[Wheatland]

My sprinter is 300mm row spacing what Dutch would you use for cereals

Open backed 5” here

 

[TINTIN]

so if one is converting a horsch drill do you go for dutch or Metcalfe?thoughts please

 

[Longneck]

Depends what crops your planting into what cultivation system? Would you be happy with cereals on wide rows?

 

[Fred]

so if one is converting a horsch drill do you go for dutch or Metcalfe?thoughts please

Dutch all the way , far stronger and more versatile , we have 1" 2" and 5" direct drilling osr with 2" we have direct drilled wheat and beans but cant afford yield drops (not the openers fault)

 

[TINTIN]

ideal thanks for info.we are drilling wheat,barley,oats,beans and kale so that is helpful.

 

[Northdowns Martin]

Dutch all the way , far stronger and more versatile , we have 1" 2" and 5" direct drilling osr with 2" we have direct drilled wheat and beans but cant afford yield drops (not the openers fault)

Why 2" and not 1" for OSR?

 

[Fred]

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Why 2" and not 1" for OSR?

Because we are putting liquid fert down , so have the paired row of osr and fert

 

[Northdowns Martin]

I’m putting liquid fert down down behind 1” row, first time mind, this shouldn’t be an issue?

 

[Northdowns Martin]

About to buy a set on openers for cereal drilling. I direct drill and will only use them for cover crops and cereals after cereals which is rare, neighbour who shares drill min tils and has been using duetts. What would be the most suitable width and style? ie. open or paired 3,4 or 5 inch?

 

[Green oak]

About to buy a set on openers for cereal drilling. I direct drill and will only use them for cover crops and cereals after cereals which is rare, neighbour who shares drill min tils and has been using duetts. What would be the most suitable width and style? ie. open or paired 3,4 or 5 inch?

5” open. Definitely

 

[Green oak]

5” open. Definitely