E-farm and cloning of my tractor help!!

Hi

I am selling my fendt as getting a new tractor. This isn't the problem. I only have advertised it via eBay, autotrader and agriafairs. However I have seen my tractor on fwi website sold by e-farm in Germany. It is also on e-farm website. I firstly haven't given them permission and secondly I have been emailing them with interest to buy my own tractor to see if they fall in the con trap.
I don't no who efarm is and understand the situation and what's best to do. I have asked to see the tractor then he rung me from hamberg and emailed me saying best to speak to (me) but I have been using different names etc. All but wierd and wondered if anyone else had this done to them?
 
Looks highly suspect - the so-called excellent 'reviews' on Facebook are all either irrelevant, meaningless or bought, don't appear to be any genuine ones, surprise surprise.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/Efarmco...age_recommendations_see_all&ref=page_internal

Be interesting to see how you get on trying to buy your own tractor, it looks like they bumped the Ebay price up by around 4k so there's the reason they've done it.

Yes very dodgy just can't work it out. I'm selling mine for £45k . They put it on fwi for £43k located in Germany and on e-farm website it £49k in England. But the man has given me my own number and name to arrange a visit so how efarm making money unless he clocked on its (me) ??
 
Perhaps they make the money offering the various steps in the process:

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Does seem a little odd that they'd refer you to yourself so quickly though - unless they think you'd then go back to them...

And why the so-called reviews are all fake if it's legitimate is also a mystery - something isn't right.

Iv never heard of e farm before but as u say lots of likes and reviews. But it's a mystery how can make money if you don't go through them via there inspections etc.

Iv never had a dealer get back to me so quickly. 5 minutes after sending email he rang them email me.

I think he cotton on it was me emailing as I used my Hotmail email and I didn't no that contained my name next to the email so that why he stopped calling me rob and addressed me as Ben.
 
E-Farm.com have 134,000 Facebook followers so are a serious business

agriaffaires.co.uk has terms and conditions

https://www.agriaffaires.co.uk/service/cgv/pub.html

which talk about 'partners' so suspect that they may be advertising through other sites as well. Why not contact Agriaffaires and ask them?
Yes I had a look through and maybe your right but I will ask agriafairs.
 

Dave645

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Arable Farmer
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Hi

I am selling my fendt as getting a new tractor. This isn't the problem. I only have advertised it via eBay, autotrader and agriafairs. However I have seen my tractor on fwi website sold by e-farm in Germany. It is also on e-farm website. I firstly haven't given them permission and secondly I have been emailing them with interest to buy my own tractor to see if they fall in the con trap.
I don't no who efarm is and understand the situation and what's best to do. I have asked to see the tractor then he rung me from hamberg and emailed me saying best to speak to (me) but I have been using different names etc. All but wierd and wondered if anyone else had this done to them?
They make money in 2 possible ways 1. if someone buys it from their adverts for more money they buy it from you and take the difference. . . your not getting robed. You get your money the buyer gets the tractor, but what’s also likely.
Option 2
the buyer maybe is getting robbed, and it looks like you did it, if they do rob the buyer. After he pays them. And they don’t pay you so you don’t let the buyer pick up the tractor.

So if a buyer does contact you inform them of the only way to pay, is direct and or through sites your advertising on.

The final option is they are just trying to build up users for their site, so are faking them, and faking listings to attract actual adverts and paying customers, no one visits if you have no listings so padding the website with fake listings is a promotional stunt nothing more, and the price increase is to avoid the buyer going through them as they have it listed at more money. But it looks like they have your tractor for sale so their site gets extra visitors and it helps them attract actual customers trying to sell items and paying a fee.
So it maybe harmless but that’s not 100% guaranteed.
 
They make money in 2 possible ways 1. if someone buys it from their adverts for more money they buy it from you and take the difference. . . your not getting robed. You get your money the buyer gets the tractor, but what’s also likely.
Option 2
the buyer maybe is getting robbed, and it looks like you did it, if they do rob the buyer. After he pays them. And they don’t pay you so you don’t let the buyer pick up the tractor.

So if a buyer does contact you inform them of the only way to pay, is direct and or through sites your advertising on.

The final option is they are just trying to build up users for their site, so are faking them, and faking listings to attract actual adverts and paying customers, no one visits if you have no listings so padding the website with fake listings is a promotional stunt nothing more, and the price increase is to avoid the buyer going through them as they have it listed at more money. But it looks like they have your tractor for sale so their site gets extra visitors and it helps them attract actual customers trying to sell items and paying a fee.
So it maybe harmless but that’s not 100% guaranteed.
Yes your probs right with one of those options. I made a bit of mistake it’s 49k Euro on there website which is 45k£ but they are asking for £43.5k on fwi when I’m asking for £45k.
Iv just never heard of e farm and surely if they a big company someone must have dealt with them or as you say maybe just getting as many other adverts to boost visits to there website. I’m goung to email him saying why you selling my tractor to myself as I not given permission and see if get a reply.
 

Farmer Piles

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Location
Cornwall
If it was me I would be taking it up With FWi as surely it is their responsibility to monitor and weed out rogue or dodgy posts on their site. They are a commercial outfit, they take the money so they should police their site. They should have the resources and contacts to suss it out.
 
If it was me I would be taking it up With FWi as surely it is their responsibility to monitor and weed out rogue or dodgy posts on their site. They are a commercial outfit, they take the money so they should police their site. They should have the resources and contacts to suss it out.
I will inform them but sure it says on there website and adverts in magazine saying it's not fw responsibility if dodgy advert.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
lots of online classifieds sites "scrape" ads from other sites to make themselves look busy and build traffic levels............. plenty in the UK do it not just abroad as getting such a site going is a bit chicken and egg ! ie you have no adverts so you get no visitors and no one places any adverts etc !

nothing dodgey about that if its the case, juts a bit sad that some sites need to do this
 
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