E10 petrol

Bullring

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Location
Cornwall
With the petrol changing on 1st Sept is there anything to suggest it won’t be suitable in quads and ride on lawnmowers. How new do the quads and lawnmowers have to be to be able to use it. Some People say it shouldn’t be used in 2 stroke engines like strimmers and chainsaws. I don’t really want to fork out up to 20ppl for the old E5 stuff after next weds if I don’t have to and some garages won’t even stock it, I know my local Tesco won’t.
 

Lincs Lass

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Location
north lincs
Tescos here have already got the E10 ,the other pumps in town have both 5 and 10 ,,its going to catch alot out .
I asked my neighbour how old her car was because its on a personal plate ,its 15 years old and she didnt know what I was talking about
 

Netherfield

Member
Location
West Yorkshire
Article in the Yorkshire Post today, but as usual it only mentions car/ van engines.

'E10 is compatible with the majority of petrol-engined vehicles on the road today and all petrol cars built since 2011. New vehicles built since 2019 should have a sticker near the fuel cap with E5 or E10 on it.
If you unsure E5 will remain available at all filling stations'

'The DVLA has created a vehicle compatibility checker to see if your vehicle can use the new fuel.'

Believe of that what you will.
 

8100

Member
Location
South Cheshire
I did remove the two stroke oil injector pump of my engine but have put it back on now as i think it will give it the best chance.
Time will tell if i ever get the project finished. Not to keen on synthetic 2t oil so sticking to the oil with plenty of Dinosaurs in it i think :)
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
My fear is when theres only E10 ,,what will 2 stroke engines run on

2 strokes run just fine on E10.

I know a guy who builds world championship Rotax kart engines and this came up in discussion. Apparently ethanol doesn't cause a problem in 2 strokes until you reach the really high ethanol concentrations. To prove it he showed me a piston from an engine raced in Sweden, and run exclusively on E85, which was running absolutely fine at 14,500 rpm. The only problem he found was that the teflon coating used by Rotax on the piston skirt had dissolved after 25 hours of running, but apart from that the engine was fine.
 

8100

Member
Location
South Cheshire
2 strokes run just fine on E10.

I know a guy who builds world championship Rotax kart engines and this came up in discussion. Apparently ethanol doesn't cause a problem in 2 strokes until you reach the really high ethanol concentrations. To prove it he showed me a piston from an engine raced in Sweden, and run exclusively on E85, which was running absolutely fine at 14,500 rpm. The only problem he found was that the teflon coating used by Rotax on the piston skirt had dissolved after 25 hours of running, but apart from that the engine was fine.
Geez if it dissolves teflon there is no hope for fake ngk bearings now :D
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin

Lincoln75

Member
You can remove ethanol if you have a lot of time on your hands , doing this on the motorway services carpark may rise a few eyebrows.

 

ColinV6

Member
I’m willing to bet that in terms of cars there’s a lot of “scaremongering” going on with the 2011 thing. Another ploy to get easily influenced owners of older cars to trade them in for new or electric.

I bet most petrol engines will handle the change without a problem.

Edit: a quick google shows that BMW petrol engines back to the e30 series can run on E10 without issues. That’s back to the late 80’s
 

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