Easy calving A.I bull

Dartagnan

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Easily calved but lean as wood, would be my guess. Keep hearing that Salers are bad to finish. If the females are similar, I can't really understand their popularity as a suckler. A suckler cow should transfer blubber from summer into winter.

They are hard finished alrite but their popularity as suckler cows is because of their good calving ability, hardiness, good feet, good milk, tidy udders and their most important quality when you put a Charolais bull on them you get a hairy golden yellow calf that buyers go mad for. They're easily maintained over the winter compared to tanks of Limousin, Charolais or Simmental cows.
 

Dartagnan

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Easiest calving lim I’ve found is Tomschoice lexicon we use him over AAx and BBx cows and the calves squirt out - only ones I’ve had to pull are the odd one with a leg back or a breech, calves grow like mushrooms and you wont recognise them after a month

What are they like size wise as weanlings?
Do you think Lexicon would be a good bull to breed replacement heifers from?
 
They are hard finished alrite but their popularity as suckler cows is because of their good calving ability, hardiness, good feet, good milk, tidy udders and their most important quality when you put a Charolais bull on them you get a hairy golden yellow calf that buyers go mad for. They're easily maintained over the winter compared to tanks of Limousin, Charolais or Simmental cows.
My thoughts would be that fertility would suffer if the cows are hard fleshing.
 

crofteress

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The other thing I don't understand about salers is if the bulls are easy calving then how are daughters such good calvers. Do they p produce a narrow calve that also has width?
 

Johngee

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Llandysul
Easily calved but lean as wood, would be my guess. Keep hearing that Salers are bad to finish. If the females are similar, I can't really understand their popularity as a suckler. A suckler cow should transfer blubber from summer into winter.
They’re actually a dual purpose breed in France with many being milked to produce high end Cantal and Salers cheeses
 

Dartagnan

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My thoughts would be that fertility would suffer if the cows are hard fleshing.

Yeah i can see why you would think that but their fertility is very good in my experience.
Salers being easy calved and being good calvers themselves does seem like a contradiction also but the females have a wide pelvis usually.
 
Yeah i can see why you would think that but their fertility is very good in my experience.
Salers being easy calved and being good calvers themselves does seem like a contradiction also but the females have a wide pelvis usually.
Fair enough. I have no personal experience of them, just going by what I've heard (seen in a minor way). What's your experience of temperament?
 

Dartagnan

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Fair enough. I have no personal experience of them, just going by what I've heard (seen in a minor way). What's your experience of temperament?

Similar to limousins i think, there's no doubt that there has been poor docility with some bloodlines but i think it has improved a lot in recent years.
 

Dartagnan

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Possibly, they seem to make good mothers anyway.
Some off them have been nutters just like Lims but i've seen lots of quiet ones also.
I would expect breeders to keep focussing on improving their docility in the future.
They won't be everyones cup of tea but they're very suited to poorer quality land.
 

Katarina

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Mid Wales
Hamlet is a very easy calving bull but you can't get him anymore. Why wouldn't you save any Hamlet heifers for breeding? I ask cuz I,ve got several to calve (to an AA)
Has Hamlet died then for there to be no more semen? Think we have a 100 of his doses in the genus flask. We've used him a lot over the last few years and he's done us really well. We have also kept some of his daughters and kept two bulls out of him. Both have exceptional temperament . Been told some of his calves can be quiet flighty thought. Not seen that here.
Carmon dauphin was another good easy calving bull that threw good cattle.
 

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The Health and Safety Executive for Northern Ireland (HSENI) alongside the Farm Safety Partnership (FSP), has named new farm safety champions and commended the outstanding work on farm safety that has been carried out in the farming community in the last 20 years.

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