Easy calving bulls for sale??

[startinghandle]

Who would the person selling 17 to 18 months old Charolais bulls in this week farmers guardian know they are easy calving... bit like saying I know next week lottery numbers

 

[neilo]

You do realise that lots of traits are heritable?

 

[Agrivator]

You do realise that lots of traits are heritable?

You do realise that the heritability of most traits is low.

 

[Werzle]

Who would the person selling 17 to 18 months old Charolais bulls in this week farmers guardian know they are easy calving... bit like saying I know next week lottery numbers

Dont talk b.o.l.l.o.c.k.s , some are from long lines of easy calvers . Polled ones are usually easier than most , dont blame the bull if your cows are as fat as mud or tiny framed/pelvic breed either.

 

[startinghandle]

Dont talk b.o.l.l.o.c.k.s , some are from long lines of easy calvers . Polled ones are usually easier than most , dont blame the bull if your cows are as fat as mud or tiny framed/pelvic breed

The advert is claiming easy Calvers so if the new owner of bull has problems with difficult calving can he claim damages... it happened a few times when we sold milk receiving a letter from MMB asking to give details about difficult or easy calving with particular bulls and we got a discount voucher

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Calving is not always about the bull

 

[neilo]

Calving is not always about the bull

Of course not, but genetics are certainly a part of it.

 

[neilo]

The advert is claiming easy Calvers so if the new owner of bull has problems with difficult calving can he claim damages... it happened a few times when we sold milk receiving a letter from MMB asking to give details about difficult or easy calving with particular bulls and we got a discount voucher

I only remember that for the progeny test bills, which were cheap because they were unproven.

All those returns, along with records today of relatives, go towards making a more reliable proof.

 

[br jones]

yawn

 

[juke]

there are plenty of easy calving charolais, the trick is to look at the dam line to see where its come from. its easy to get a heavily positive bull stick it on a hard calving cow line and you end up with a positive score that doesnt have the best of traits that goes across all breeds. then theres the question of the cows that bull is going on...

 

[Werzle]

Mate overheard a conversation at a recent bull sale between interested buyer and breeder . Buyer- i like this bull , would he be ok for friesian hfrs? (Breeder)- no i wouldnt like to use him on friesian hfrs, this bull further down here would be far better suited for your job.

Mate was amazed to see the buyer purchasing the bull he was warned off from buyingno doubt when he has calving problems the bull and breeder will be blamed. You cant help some people!

 

[tinsheet]

Of course not, but genetics are certainly a part of it.

BIG part of it.

 

[M-J-G]

Calving is not always about the bull

Calving is thought to be influenced 50% by environment and 50% by genetics
So the bull contributed around 25%

 

[M-J-G]

Who would the person selling 17 to 18 months old Charolais bulls in this week farmers guardian know they are easy calving... bit like saying I know next week lottery numbers

He has maybe found them to be easy calving

 

[XXFarmerJessXX]

Maybe bull is home bred and all of his breeding has been easy calving? there's obviously no guarantees but it's the best thing to do on.