Easy drill

Discussion in 'Direct Drilling Machinery' started by Banana Bar, Dec 8, 2018.

  1. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    We tried 3 different disc direct drills this autumn, Weaving, Sly and Avatar. Made the mistake of not trying the Easy Drill. Are there any users on here willing to discuss their good and bad points?

    Thanks

    BB
     
  2. ih1455xl

    ih1455xl Member

    Location:
    northampton
    Had the easy drill on demo had it block up a few times some good features but brought the weaving as I felt it was the best all round drill and was also the cheapest
     
  3. ace

    ace Member

    Location:
    east anglia
     
  4. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
  5. Hobbit

    Hobbit Member

    Location:
    South West
    We had a few demo’s and went for the easy drill. It coped with our stone brash soils better than the others and offered the best consolidation. We brought the demo machine not long after.
     
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  6. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    Had another good look at the trial field yesterday. There really isn't much to choose between the drills. The establishment behind the Weaving GD is much worse but we have certainly drilled too deep. Weaving told me this during the demo but I was insistent that the seed was no deeper than 2", in reality its about 3" and a lot of seed germinated but ran out of steam before breaking cover.
    The Avatar and Sly boss are quite similar but plant counts are slightly higher behind the Avatar. I had a 750a for a couple of years but was never really happy with the job it achieved. I think at that time I still had my Simba and Vaderstad hat on and couldn't quite see that the system needs to change rather than just the drill.

    Struggle to see any major differences between the Avatar and 750, are there any, who has had both or tried both that can comment?

    BB
     
  7. GeorgeK

    GeorgeK Member

    Location:
    Leicestershire
    We have a Sumo-Moore Versadrill, which is similar (Easy Drill was designed with Moore and based on the Unidrill). From what I see on here the Weaving is a better, more modern design that offers better seed placement and slot closure. Ours always leaves some seed on top and doesn't always close the slots on clay if it's too dry or wet. However despite this it grows good crops and will drill into just about anything, hard ground or lots of trash isn't a problem. It's also heavy, on light or sandy land the press wheels ridge the soil up and create more disturbance, although this doesn't seem to result in any more weeds
     
  8. GeorgeK

    GeorgeK Member

    Location:
    Leicestershire
    The newer drill designs seem to have press wheels that work at an angle to the slot which I assume works better. The Easy Drill, like ours, presses straight down on the slot and relies on pressure to deform the soil and push it out sideways to close the slot. Just my thoughts
     
  9. Will Blackburn

    Location:
    Cheshire
    I seem to remember that there is a difference in the independence of the closing wheel according to @Simon Chiles
     
  10. topless_matt

    topless_matt Member

    Location:
    Suffolk
    Metering systems are different. Avatar is pressurised tank for grain and Fert too. Can also have micro granular kit ex factory. Decent axles with 710 boots and pneumatic brakes. Easy calibration same as any Horsch unit. Half width or front and back separation if you wanted to drill different crops at same time.

    The list goes on.
     
  11. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    Can you lift a row out of work and use row cleaners for establishing OSR?
     
  12. topless_matt

    topless_matt Member

    Location:
    Suffolk
    If you have it piped up front and back instead of left and right I think you can. Would have to check though. Would have to manually adjust the disc depth to stop them going into work iirc.
     
  13. Will Blackburn

    Location:
    Cheshire
    Just had a look at the avatar and the coulter travel is shite, this may not be a problem for some. Will be as good as the easy drill but less good than the jd which is not as good as the cs.
     
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  14. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

    Location:
    Lichfield

    There is very little difference between drills, plenty of capable brands now - buy the one you like the build of at a price you like

    The colour of drill really is almost irrelevant to success though and should be a long way down your thinking

    What rotational / nutritional and staff / unfastructure changes are you planning on making ? Get them sorted then think drills i
     
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  15. Tractor Boy

    Tractor Boy Member

    Location:
    Suffolk
    I know I’ve got the same drill you got rid of but in my opinion they are superior to most. The fact that the firming and closing wheels are completely independent, the seed depth accuracy and ease of altering is far better than most as well and penetration is better than some.
    The downsides are they are awful to work on and 6m is as large as it goes. Something that might be of interest to you is that I am currently having a set of row cleaners fitted although they have been a bit of an engineering headache.
     
  16. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    Row cleaners for both rows or just one? Would think one row to drill OSR would be sufficient?
     
  17. Tractor Boy

    Tractor Boy Member

    Location:
    Suffolk
    Both rows. Hopefully it will help with cover crop and OSR establishment into chopped straw and maybe enable me to do second cereals if I want to as well.
     

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