Easy ram tups

Downton_shep

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Location
Leintwardine
If you put them out at 1 tup to 150 ewes = 250 lambs say.
Over three years it's a £ a lamb six years 50p
And the lambs get up and suck and grow well.
Think the people that benefit the most would be the ones keeping ewe lambs. We sell all ours at the sale but since using Easyrams we're get more and more buyers every year so they must be doing something right.
 

easyram1

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Location
North Shropshire
Seeking information on easy ram tups are they worth the money?
I think they are worth the money but then I would wouldn't I;) We have maintained the same basic price, since we sold our first sheep 10 years ago ( £600 for lambs and £750 for shearlings for Suffolks and Sufftexes and £50/hd more for Texels ) Apart from the obvious advantages of serving more ewes as already pointed out by Sheeptastic we will again offer this year our 2 season warranty whereby rams dying before the end of their second service season are replaced FOC.
This year for the first time we will have complete Performance Figures from SIL in NZ, including Terminal and Maternal Indexes and on an across Flock basis whereby our Suffolks Sufftexes and Texels are directly compared with each other for all traits including lamb survivability. Finally SW Scotland is one of our biggest growth areas so I can give you lots of customers names in that area and of course delivery to you can also be arranged


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Joe S

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Location
Orkney
Well boss man swears by then and says it's all he will have by next year! A tup going to more sheep with easier lambing and lamb grading out better on average what's not to like? Most his other tups have been replaced with easy rams tups already!
He's singing there praises in fact he won't shutup about them as soon as someone mentions sheep he's on about them!
 

Johngee

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Llandysul
I've been using tups from Easyrams since the very beginning and I would definitely recommend them. Back then the prices did seem a bit steep (£600 for a grass fed ram lamb) but when you consider the fact that you need less than half the tups and many of them will last for six seasons then it's quite reasonable.
In fact we spend significantly less on tups every year now than when we were buying yearlings for £300 in the local mart, serving 40 ewes, and being knackered after two years. And that's without the other benefits of easy lambing, get up and go, thriving on a forage diet etc.
 

Plas king

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Location
North Wales
I've been using tups from Easyrams since the very beginning and I would definitely recommend them. Back then the prices did seem a bit steep (£600 for a grass fed ram lamb) but when you consider the fact that you need less than half the tups and many of them will last for six seasons then it's quite reasonable.
In fact we spend significantly less on tups every year now than when we were buying yearlings for £300 in the local mart, serving 40 ewes, and being knackered after two years. And that's without the other benefits of easy lambing, get up and go, thriving on a forage diet etc.
What type of ewes do you put these easy rams on?Do you sell live or on the hook?
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
In fact we spend significantly less on tups every year now than when we were buying yearlings for £300 in the local mart, serving 40 ewes, and being knackered after two years. And that's without the other benefits of easy lambing, get up and go, thriving on a forage diet etc.

It should perhaps be mentioned that the same can be got from most forage reared rams, whether they be Meatlincs, Aberwotsits or any more mainstream breeds from a producer that rears his rams that way.;)
 

Johngee

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Llandysul
It should perhaps be mentioned that the same can be got from most forage reared rams, whether they be Meatlincs, Aberwotsits or any more mainstream breeds from a producer that rears his rams that way.;)

Possibly so, but the OP was asking about easyrams. Of course the genetics is just as important as the rearing - if you take a typical UK Suffolk ram lamb and rear him on grass only his lambs still won't be as easily born and active as the NZ Suffolks.
 

TomB

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Location
Wiltshire
Whilst I don't disagree with above statement ,at least easyrams stands by his tups for 2 seasons
Not sure what @neilo charges for his tups, but if it were £500 for example and easyrams is £750 with a 2 year warranty, if only 2/3 survive the second season he is making good money. Alternatively the buyer could take the risk, provided he doesn't choose rams fed only on cabbages.
 

farmer james

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Mixed Farmer
Possibly so, but the OP was asking about easyrams. Of course the genetics is just as important as the rearing - if you take a typical UK Suffolk ram lamb and rear him on grass only his lambs still won't be as easily born and active as the NZ Suffolks.

That is why you are better off buying rams off farm where you can spend time talking to the ram breeder, about his ram breeding and what you want from a ram rather than in the ring where biggest is best. Because believe it or not but there very active UK Suffolks out there, you just need to find them and generally there production figures are a long way ahead of the NZ Suffolks.
FJ
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Possibly so, but the OP was asking about easyrams. Of course the genetics is just as important as the rearing - if you take a typical UK Suffolk ram lamb and rear him on grass only his lambs still won't be as easily born and active as the NZ Suffolks.

True, but I was just pointing out that your comments could just as easily be applied to many other breeds, and breeders.

For the record, I'm certainly not knocking what Robyn is doing, or indeed what Innovis, etc are doing. Rearing Rams that can survive without feed troughs is certainly heading the right way IMO.
 
Location
cumbria
You pay me double and I will too.:)
Certainly can't/won't comment on your tups as I have no firsthand experience of them, though if this forum is anything to go by they are good.Only comment I was making was easyrams , like similarly managed tups, have good longevity which has to be taken into account coupled with numbers served per season when quantifying value for money.

From a personal view point the two lambs we used this year easily covered 75 each and gained condition . This was on our worst ground ( 1000 ft pp with no inputs ) as they served our inverdale shearlings. We also have a 7 shear inverdale tup still serving 120/yr so this has to be factored in to purchase
 

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