Easycare sheep experiment

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
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Montgomeryshire
The good thing is that if that’s the last fault you’ve got, I can see you’re reaching.

Even my terminals are better mothers than your maternal ewes it appears 😂 View attachment 1032056

That’s the point, even my terminals are better mothers than that particular group of ‘maternals’!🤐

My woolly maternals are placid sheep that are glued to their lambs, even if I have to meddle.
 
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pgk

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That’s the point, even my terminals are better mothers than that particular group of ‘materials’!🤐

My woolly maternals are placid sheep that are glued to their lambs, even if I have to meddle.
I have noticed particularly this year the texels and chartex are very attentive mothers across the board, mind you a pain to move after 24hrs as they insist on turning around to make sure their lambs are still behind them. Not a bad problem to have I suppose😊
 
Something a bit different!
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eadiebro

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Scottish Borders
Has anyone else had an email looking for participants in a trial of a new product, biodegradable clips for tail docking and castration? I forget what they were called. Bad timing I thought, emailing when most folk they were targeting would be lambing.
Hello Woolless ... I sent that email ! We actually got a really good response (and at Scotsheep too). Most people realise that rings cause considerable suffering and know that something will be done about it in the end. That's what we are trying to do ! Interestingly enough both the products being proposed as solutions have been invented in Scotland ! ClipFitter is our product's name and you can be reminded of it at www.clipfitter.co.uk if you want. Thanks for mentioning and apologies for the timing !
 
Hello Woolless ... I sent that email ! We actually got a really good response (and at Scotsheep too). Most people realise that rings cause considerable suffering and know that something will be done about it in the end. That's what we are trying to do ! Interestingly enough both the products being proposed as solutions have been invented in Scotland ! ClipFitter is our product's name and you can be reminded of it at www.clipfitter.co.uk if you want. Thanks for mentioning and apologies for the timing !
Fill us in here. I’d like an option for taking balls off up to six weeks.
 

Kingcustard

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Hi Brian

Can you please give us more details, the website is a bit vague.

What is the cost per clip???

Do the boys roll about when castrated, this can be annoying when you have applied Clik and they run most of it off, and also can lead to lost lambs if the ewe has a ewe lamb and wanders off on the hills.

Any evidence on reducing the incidence of infections post application???? ..... I have 2 nice big lambs which now have joint ill since tailing and given the age they were tailed at, then the rubber ring would be the most likely route of infection.

How easy is it to do on your own, holding the lamb and applying the clips???

How quickly can you get a tag in the applicator while holding a lamb that is trying to kick your teeth out????

I still have 18 lambs that are a month old to tail and castrate, can you get me some to trial for you, being one of your first customers for your auto taggers all these years ago must qualify me 😉😉
 

eadiebro

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Location
Scottish Borders
Fill us in here. I’d like an option for taking balls off up to six weeks.
Not sure where you are based but 2 UK inventions are offering an answer. Ours is a Clip which is applied right across the scrotum with a modern day burdizzo … ie purely mechanical and legal in Scotland … and the other is a ring plier with an aesthetic dispenser built into it .. ie needle & drug. Do contact me for more info on our ClipFitter at [email protected]. Thanks for asking
 

Kingcustard

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Not sure where you are based but 2 UK inventions are offering an answer. Ours is a Clip which is applied right across the scrotum with a modern day burdizzo … ie purely mechanical and legal in Scotland … and the other is a ring plier with an aesthetic dispenser built into it .. ie needle & drug. Do contact me for more info on our ClipFitter at [email protected]. Thanks for asking

Not sure where you are based but 2 UK inventions are offering an answer. Ours is a Clip which is applied right across the scrotum with a modern day burdizzo … ie purely mechanical and legal in Scotland … and the other is a ring plier with an aesthetic dispenser built into it .. ie needle & drug. Do contact me for more info on our ClipFitter at [email protected]. Thanks for asking
I am interested in the Clip, and I am in Fife, Scotland
 

eadiebro

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Location
Scottish Borders
Hi Brian

Can you please give us more details, the website is a bit vague.

What is the cost per clip???

Do the boys roll about when castrated, this can be annoying when you have applied Clik and they run most of it off, and also can lead to lost lambs if the ewe has a ewe lamb and wanders off on the hills.

Any evidence on reducing the incidence of infections post application???? ..... I have 2 nice big lambs which now have joint ill since tailing and given the age they were tailed at, then the rubber ring would be the most likely route of infection.

How easy is it to do on your own, holding the lamb and applying the clips???

How quickly can you get a tag in the applicator while holding a lamb that is trying to kick your teeth out????

I still have 18 lambs that are a month old to tail and castrate, can you get me some to trial for you, being one of your first customers for your auto taggers all these years ago must qualify me 😉😉
Hi … do I call you Custard .. or Sir (as one of my first victims all those years ago !) No, they do not roll around at all after clips fitted and this is the most obvious benefit of clips v rings. As far as reducing infection I have no evidence either way. All I do know is that tails come off pretty quickly .. 10 days or less. Maybe that would help or maybe not ? Certainly no adverse remarks reported from the ‘hundreds’ of lambs we have clipped. Single handed use depends on breed and size I suppose. Photo attached of this morning single handed shepherd using our cradle .. and one last year doing it the traditional way. Also this morning pic using NZ chute system and Scottish Blackface lambs that were on or over the current clip’s age limit !
loading the Fitter is the same as loading a ring provided clips and clippers are to hand.
So let me know where you are .. you are pre-qualified obviously !!
Thanks, Brian
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steveR

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And to get the Thread back on track.... a bit. ;)

Anyone know of some nice yearling EC types for breeding next season? I have waaaay too much grass in the Solar farm and my Welsh EC guru has not got the sheep he anticipated, to bring down to the land of milk and honey. Happy to go an hour or so from Telford.... Chunky is good :)

Going to have a nice batch of home grown ewe lambs for building the flock in Spring 2024, but we have been quite hard on the culling and more to go come weaning, so I'd like to lift the numbers by 20-25 now if possible.

PM please.
 

ISCO

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Location
North East
Hi Brian

Can you please give us more details, the website is a bit vague.

What is the cost per clip???

Do the boys roll about when castrated, this can be annoying when you have applied Clik and they run most of it off, and also can lead to lost lambs if the ewe has a ewe lamb and wanders off on the hills.

Any evidence on reducing the incidence of infections post application???? ..... I have 2 nice big lambs which now have joint ill since tailing and given the age they were tailed at, then the rubber ring would be the most likely route of infection.

How easy is it to do on your own, holding the lamb and applying the clips???

How quickly can you get a tag in the applicator while holding a lamb that is trying to kick your teeth out????

I still have 18 lambs that are a month old to tail and castrate, can you get me some to trial for you, being one of your first customers for your auto taggers all these years ago must qualify me 😉😉
I saw the clips at Scotsheep. The cost quoted was around 33p each which is a lot more than a ring but legal until 12 weeks in Scotland I think. The comparison would be the cost of a ring and anaesthetic against a ring.
 

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