Economics of different shed spans

Discussion in 'Buildings & Infrastructure' started by KennyO, Jan 4, 2018.

  1. glasshouse

    glasshouse Member

    Location:
    lothians
    If you are tied to ad lib feeding you limit your options
     
  2. Pan mixer

    Pan mixer Member

    Location:
    Near Colchester
    40 foot is about the right depth to house the number of cattle that can feed in a 20 foot bay, spreading straw right to the back mechanically is then quite easy.

    16 foot to the eaves about right for the cattle, taller than that and you can get problems with the 'stack ventilation' not working properly.
     
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  3. KennyO

    KennyO Member

    Location:
    Angus
    We don't need as much as 40 foot deep for finishers but would be nice. Current sheds are 27' and 30' deep. Fill the feeding space full.
     
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  4. Happy

    Happy Member

    Location:
    Scotland
    There was some photos of a shed setup like you are thinking of either on here or BFF a few years back. Think it might have been someone up Aberdeenshire way.

    Centre 50/60ft part was grain store and straw shed with 30/40ft open sided lean to for cattle off one side with another off the other for machine storage.

    As other have said have plenty height in whatever you go for. Minimum 25ft for grain store and wouldn't go for just 14ft on cattle shed. You'll curse it everytime you need to tip some wet grain in it.
     
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  5. KennyO

    KennyO Member

    Location:
    Angus
    My mate has just built a 60x120 straw shed with a 30' lean to for cattle- got shed envy so thinking about trying to build myself.
     
  6. glasshouse

    glasshouse Member

    Location:
    lothians
    I hate lean to s
    So many compromises just to save a few rsj s
    I hate valley gutters too
    A grain store with cattle next door can get serious leakage into thegrain
    Straw should never be next to cattle
    Different in old days when it was a hand ball into the court, not an issue now
    Straw should 500 yds away
     
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  7. glasshouse

    glasshouse Member

    Location:
    lothians
    With many farms now without a resident farmer, fire safety is far more important.
    Unless you like roast beef
     
  8. Happy

    Happy Member

    Location:
    Scotland
    Surely one of the benefits of a cattle shed lean to off the grain store/straw shed like @KennyO's mate has is that there is no gutter on the join of the grain/cattle bit at all? Rain runs all the way down to gutter on eaves beam of cattle bit. Agree twin span and valley gutters are big no, no and like you say fire risk in this type of arrangement would worry me.
     
  9. glasshouse

    glasshouse Member

    Location:
    lothians
    I w
    i wasnt thinking about rainwater
     
  10. rusty

    rusty Member

    Location:
    Buxton Derbyshire
    Did a cubicle shed for 250 cows 12 years ago. Shed is 180' by 120' wide.
    Ended up with center span 66' wide with lean too each side. This worked out over 10k cheaper than having clear span. However you do need more concrete post bases. Not to bad for us as on limestone bedrock do didn't have to be to big. Also used the middle shed posts to hang the cubicles off.
     
  11. multi power

    multi power Member

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    Cattle in a lean to is a stupid idea, no ventilation
    Cattle in the middle and straw in the lean to would be better
     
  12. glasshouse

    glasshouse Member

    Location:
    lothians
    Too risky for fire
     
  13. multi power

    multi power Member

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    Yes I agree on the fire risk, but my point is a lean to isn't really good enough ventilation for cattle
     
  14. dannewhouse

    dannewhouse Member

    Location:
    huddersfield
    straw on the outside would reduce ventilation also
     
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  15. Forever Fendt

    Forever Fendt Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    Cattle shed and a separate straw shed , if i run a farm assurance scheme i would not allow the same building for both
     
  16. dannewhouse

    dannewhouse Member

    Location:
    huddersfield
    I stack straw in 1 bay of a cattle shed until I use it up and then when they calve its extra room for cows and calves works ok.
     
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  17. mo!

    mo! Member

    Location:
    York
    We have a 60ft deep shed and don't use the full width for finishers on TMR, and that's full, not like some half empty sheds posted recently. For blowing straw in 45 to 50 is ideal.
     
  18. Forever Fendt

    Forever Fendt Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    Its just the fire issue that concerns me with straw in sheds with stock in them,I have seen a lot of buildings that have been burnt out but thankfully none with stock in them,its always a bit of planning leverage as well building another building to store straw in away from livestock housing
     

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